Who Is Your Agent? Building Identity, Reputation & Trust in the Web3 × AI Era

All right, it's two, five, last getting start. So we'll come everyone again. We'll come to the space host by the cloud chat. So just a quick introduction about our today's topic and our guest. So today's topic is who is your agent with identity reputation and trust in the Web3 and AI era. So we know the AI agents are becoming a bigger part of the Web3 ecosystem. They are no longer just answering question or generating the content, right? So they are starting to interact with protocols, match assets, executes transactions, and even collaborate with other agents. But there are some agents become more independent. This there's a fundamental question that we need to address. How do we know which agents that we actually can actually trust? So anyone can create a wallet, anyone can launch an AI agent. But having an alternate address doesn't necessarily means an agent is available, capable, or accountable. So today we are going to explore what identity really means to AI agents, how they build reputation, and what kind of trust infrastructure will need a human and AI agents, increasingly interact in the same digital economy. So we are invited, our valuable speaker today from Clotchats, Curricut, Cigar, Magic's Chat, and more AI. Several of our speakers may run late, but we can introduce them like a little bit late. But let's jump into it. Before we get into today's discussion, let's do a quick round of introduction for the speakers who joined us today and gave our audience a little background about who's speaking today. Daffo, would you like to go first and give us a good start? Yeah, that will GMGM everyone. This is Daffo. And I'm running a Web3 Accelerator, called One Piece Labs in Sake Valley. And we mainly work with their one layer too, and help them with their ecosystem. And as for a Clotchats, so this is a project we found in Upcat Community. And we thought this is a very promising one, so we started to incubate it. Right now I'm mainly helping Clotchats with the strategy, ecosystem, and growth, and everything. So Clotchats actually is a decentralized social platform. And we have bold on Upcat and this is a Bitcoin native, and of course, Upcat native, and Ant-Hannie cryptid, Web3 social platform. And right now we've got two functions. One is called the Chat, which is pretty similar to TG, but totally encrypted. No one can see your messages, but you and the UR recipients. So it is totally safe and secure. And the other one is called Meow, which is quite similar to Twitter. You can post your stuff, people can tape you on that with Bitcoin. And we have completed our season one, which is kind of like a semi-public lounge. And we've got about 30,000 users right now. We will open our season two session pretty soon, and there will be more and more fun functions over there. So if you are into social in Web3, please reach out to us and check out Clotchats. Thank you. Great, thank you so much, Thafu, for the introduction. Kirch, would you like to go next? All right, we may have some like connection issue. Board to AI, would you like to go next and introduce yourself? Sure, hi guys. I'm Bobby, I'm the core contributor of Board to AI. So we are AI generative platform that aims to help the indie studios, creators, and the individual creators. Very importantly, we realized that last time all the social media focus was all on the big creators. Many people have spoken about Solo Founder able to create millions dollars of company. And we believe that the next phase Solo Creators is able to generate or to be compete against the big creator as well. And then this is why we created Board to AI. So we are a generative AI platform with a community, a specific tech for you to share all your content. And right now, we are starting with one BTC campaign. So anybody who is interested to create short animated film can come to our website and compete for the one BTC. Thank you. Right, thank you so much. For the curation, oh, you're back. Okay. I'm back. Yeah, thank you. Thanks so much for having me. I'm a reviewer. I'm the founder and city of coaching. To put a short coaching, the layer one built around two ideas. First security that lasts, every native transaction carries a post quantum signature MLDS 87, the next standard. So what sign today stays unforgettable for decades? Second AI built into the foundation, not at the top. We use AI to help people generate an audit smart contract. And inside our protocol, the AI is small deterministic and bounded on purpose. Yeah, because in infrastructure, a model you can audit is worth more than a model you have to trust. I also work with the PKI consortium on post quantum readiness, which is really about one question. How do you prove who someone is and keep that proof valid over time? Yeah. And I think that's exactly today's top. Good, great. Thank you so much for sharing that. All right. So let's start with something that pretty fundamental to start our first question about this space. So we know in Web3, creating a wallet is incredibly easy. And now launching AI agents is becoming just as simple. But if anyone can create hundreds of wallet or ages, how do we actually know who's behind them or whether they represent anything meaningful, right? So my question is, anyone can generate a wallet or deploy AI agent in minutes, but does owning a wallet actually give an agent a meaningful identity? So I would actually like to get a more perspective or the instance from our speaker is about this kind of like fundamental question. So if you would like to share something, feel free to unmute yourself. Or yes, perfectly raising your hand. So I know that you would like to share something. All right, I'll go ahead. Yeah, thank you. Look, does owning a wallet give an agent meaningful identity? No. And I think that's the most common confusion in the agent's space. Yeah, a wallet is a key. It proves control. It doesn't prove identity. Think of a car key. It proves you can start the engine. It doesn't tell you who's driving, whether they have a license or who pays it if they hit someone. Anyone can generate a wallet in seconds, exactly as you said, which is exactly why a wallet alone means nothing. Meaningful identity for an agent has at least three layers, let's say, who is behind it? The builder and the operator, the people are the company who has it for it. What is it? Which model? Which version? Which code? Because an agent that gets a silent update is effectively a different agent. And what it's allowed to do, its permissions and its limits, the industry is starting to separate this properly. Ethereum, ERC, 8,000, 4, I think, standard for trustless agents, keeps identity, reputation, and validation in three different registries. That's the right instinct, I think. Control, identity, and trust are three different proofs. And one detail people miss, an agent's identity may need to last for years. If the key behind it can be forged later, the whole history attached to it can be fake. That's why we think long lived the identities should be signed with post quantum cryptography from start from day one. Back to you. Yeah, I can jump in here, totally agree. Yeah, I don't think actually only Wallet actually gave the agent a ID. That is quite different because in the digital world, actually quite different from the real world. In the real world, if we have a wallet or have a, let's say, a bank account, they need our KYC. But in the digital world, actually, it needs nothing. So just a register of Wallet and give permissions to an agent. And that doesn't mean we set up an ID for that. And if I'm speaking, our industry just like by three right now have different paths and methods on that. For example, we all know that 8,000 for it. So as is the 0,04 has been there. And there are multiple chains and networks are actually using it. But if I'm speaking depends on the on chain data or different research actually less than 10% of registered agents can expose a working service endpoint. So I think right now everything else was a placeholder. So we have so many networks of agent ID. So called agent ID. And almost nobody is at home. So a wallet can give them an address, give the agents an address. But a don't, it cannot give them an ID. That is totally a separate thing. We have to consider it differently. Yeah. I agree. Thank you so much for sharing. All right. Does any other speakers want to share something about this question? That's actually a very important distinction that I'm totally agree with them. So I just want to mention one more thing. Because sometimes the space just randomly kick out the speakers. So we'll remove you back to the listener. So I'll try to keep in white. You as a speaker, if you are moving to the listener or something. So if anything happened, just try to rejoin the space. And we can try to figure out everything together. All right. Oh, we have our speakers joining us. Which is Matrix, Chen. Would you like to go ahead and introduce a bit about your program or yourself a little bit about your background? Hi, Matrix. Can you hear me? OK. I see you are amid yourself. But we are not able to list the here you. So if you want to rejoin the space and reapply for the speaker. OK. So again, thank you so much for our speakers sharing. That's actually a very important distinction. Like a wallet can give a gives an agent an address. But meaningful identity require more than that, right? All right. So actually, that's takes the idea well step further. So even if we can identify an agent on Chen, that doesn't necessarily tell us whether it's good as what it does, right? Just like the real world, you know someone's identities and trusting their ability are two completely different things. So the question is, a wallet can prove that an agent controls an address. But it cannot prove that the agent is competent or reliable. So how does an agent earn its reputation? How can we trust the that's wallet that's actually held by AI agent? You're courting? Go ahead and share. You'll see that I'm always with my hands up. OK. The idea is that it turns the reputation the same way a good electrician, let's say, earned it. Yeah. Not from how many jobs he says he's done, but from inspections. Someone independent checks the wiring and signs off.