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I kind of struggle getting the reminders.
That's why we have the group chat
for just space reminders that really helps.
So hopefully we'll get it going here pretty quick.
Let's see, I think everybody that's here
is familiar with how the spaces are go.
So scroll down here a little bit.
I am not gonna read through all the guidelines.
Tonight I do wanna thank Jay Monty Goh,
his, the link to his song is up in the nest
and in the purple pill below.
Please check out his, he separated all his music
from his photography to a new page.
And he could really use some new followers
on his musical link page.
So if you would give his page some love
and like that song would mean a lot to me.
Cause he doesn't ask for a thing.
He just lets us use whatever we want.
And there's more than willing
to let other people use it too.
So yeah, let's see.
I'm a little, I'm a little kinda, yeah.
I'm gonna lean on my co-host a lot tonight.
I wanna thank Trish.
She is really gonna take the reins
on some of the topic here tonight.
Because a lot of it has some stuff to do
with what she specializes in.
So and it just so happens that I'm kind of stuffy
and everything.
So I'm sure you all would rather listen to her
a whole lot more than me and she'll.
So with that, I think I wanna start by
our honorary co-host.
I just wanna invite GMX up so she can say hello real quick.
And then we'll go to Trish or Shell and Trish.
And we'll get this party started.
GMX, are you able to take there?
She is.
What are you looking forward to tonight?
And the reason I give it to GMX
because she is helping in the background.
She's kind of like an honorary co-host.
So good to see you, GMX.
How are you tonight?
I'm excited to be here tonight.
I'm excited to be here tonight.
I'm excited to be here tonight.
Yeah, you're a little robotic in your voice.
I don't know.
Did anybody else hear that?
Cindy, I listened to Dane's space
when I woke up early 30 this morning.
So I had four hours of that.
Then I had church.
Then I had praise music going while my phone was updating.
And then I've just been all day singing and praising.
And I'm so a little horse from that, but I'm feeling great.
Well, by robotic, I meant that was just kind of the sound
was cutting in and out.
When you're coming to clear, you sound wonderful.
Am I too loud?
No, you're perfect.
Am I too loud?
Nope, you're perfect.
Good.
We're ready to roll.
Glad you're here.
Thank you for everything you do to help.
And miss beautiful shell.
How are you tonight?
I got my new Boss Lady Cup ordered.
I'm so excited.
Y'all want some cool merch.
I just signed up as an affiliate for Shell.
And I get the first Boss Lady Cup
besides hers, of course.
And I ordered the biggest one I could get.
So if you want a new coffee cup, if you're like me,
you collect coffee cups, love sweatshirts, order it,
and you can get a huge discount by using discount code,
Cindy 15, the link to her pages on the top of her profile.
So yeah, Shell.
Enough of that.
Thank you for being so amazing and inviting me
to join us when you're affiliate.
So yeah, listen on her.
And what are you looking forward to tonight?
Introduce yourself.
Come on.
Well, I'm looking forward to what Trish is going to present.
I think it's going to be fantastic.
And I hope you all have shared the space.
I'm really looking forward to going over the rest of this book
with you, Cindy, Charlie Kirk, what a fantastic human being.
Right?
And I love that he lives on through you, Cindy,
as you go over his thoughts, his beliefs,
and his morals with us.
It's just wonderful to be here.
Thank you.
Thank you for being here.
I really appreciate you, Shell.
You're an amazing woman and setting a high bar for us.
You're a good example.
So as you follow Christ and we follow you too.
So with that, we are going to be talking tonight
before I introduce Trish.
We're going to be talking about chapter two.
It kind of, it flows out of chapter one.
It continues on that, you know, nothing
doesn't create something.
Like you can't, only God can do that.
And that is such a difference from our today's
the worldview and cultural revelation that's
going on to try to undo that completely.
They're trying to undo God's divine ordering.
The postmodern thinkers, they reject completely
that a creator exists.
They have, they replace God as creator
with all these new age different things and self
proclaimed realities and truths.
And it just, it ends up taking you right back
to before the Spirit of God hovered over the waters.
And everything was darkness and chaos.
And if you're paying attention to what's going on in this world,
oh my goodness.
Did you all see some of the stuff going on in France yesterday?
So sad, so sad.
But that's what happens when you abandon God's divine order
of things and his perfect plans for us,
we end up right back at chaos where darkness was
and the Spirit of God showed up to hover over that and bring
order and peace.
And instead of lawlessness, we have a love and a righteous
law.
And it is so good.
It's so good.
So with that, Trish, I know the chapter starts out,
really with four pillars, the atheism for years
have tried to stand on.
And then we move into a case for God
and why his way is better.
So yeah, what are you looking forward to tonight, Trish?
And I'm just going to hand it over to you.
Tell us what you're excited about and run with it, my dear sister.
I'm glad to have you here.
Hey, hey, everybody.
So I think this is one of the most important chapters
in the book.
And it's only chapter two.
So it's going to be interesting to read ahead
and see what is in store for the rest of his book
and in Charlie's thoughts on the evidence of God existing.
And his central argument is just like Cindy just said,
nothing can't create something.
And the existence of our universe calls for an explanation.
And so he goes into a lot, kind of like science part of it
and discussing the Big Bang Theory and some other things
that creationists have studied.
And so I'm definitely excited about discussing a little bit
about that.
And a little bit more about the atheism.
And before pillars or some questions that he sets up,
and then he gives his answer.
So yeah, I'm going to discuss a little bit about that tonight.
And I'll pass it back.
Well, why don't we open with prayer real quick
and you can just take it away.
So with that, Father God, we come to you.
We thank you for the space and place tonight
where we can come together, learn from you, explore
the book that Charlie Kirk wrote, his last gift to us.
And compare it to biblical truths and come to our own decisions.
Thank you that this space is not about denominations
and one person being right or wrong or telling other people
what they have to do to conform them to our ways.
But this is about you and your word God.
So conform us to you in the image of Christ Jesus.
Lord, give us open hearts and open minds
to hear what your spirit would say to us tonight.
Bless, Trish, the words of her mouth.
And may they accomplish everything that you intend.
And Jesus, precious name, we praise you, amen,
and amen.
Real quick for a trip.
So it back to Trish.
I just want to welcome everybody to the room.
It's great to have you all here.
We've got quite a crew already showing up.
13 week traveler, Sihai Lauren Natalie Maryland, Fay.
And they've spaces, Janina Jane Timothy Dane, Pack,
LFI, yes, that's Issa.
Maps could have you here, GMX, and Susan Trish.
Shell, let's go.
Take it away, Trish.
And Trish, anytime you want me to help with something
or you just let me know.
Otherwise, are you there, Trish?
Hello.
I'm here.
I'm nervous indeed.
Oh, Lord, give her peace.
It's OK.
You know what, if it helps just have a discussion with me
about it, like where you're at, tell us, what's
the four pillars atheism that they have leaned on in the past
and that are really being proven by scientists
to be not a pillar at all.
The pillars are crumbling, right?
As they come into more discoveries.
Yeah, so I was actually going to bring up
like the presentation of that and see
if you could go through those questions for me.
Would that be all right?
The questions.
Hey, God, let me, let me.
Sorry, guys.
I think you're talking about the group discussion questions
later.
Just take off with what you got.
And I'll fill in for you wherever needed OK.
You got it.
OK, so the four major pillars of atheism that Charlie points out,
he has four major questions and which he believes
is a non-theistic explanation that we must address.
Charlie's goal with these questions
is to challenge the idea that belief in God
is irrational while disbelief is automatically
the more scientific position.
So those questions that he set up in the book are,
so there's four questions.
And then so I'll mention the questions
and then give his argument.
So where did the universe come from?
Kirk argues that the universe requires a cause beyond itself.
And this is where we'll get into the scientific part
of it with the DNA and the quantum physics.
With quantum physics, I'm not going to go into tonight.
I think that should be reserved for another space
because there's so many different theories
that people explore.
And it would definitely require a little bit more time
to go through it all.
The next question is, why is Earth suitable for life?
He points to the conditions that allow
life to exist as evidence of design.
How did life begin?
He questions whether non-living matter
could produce the first life through natural processes.
And how did consciousness and morality develop?
This is one of my favorite questions.
Kirk argues that human consciousness, moral awareness
and spirituality are difficult to explain without a creator.
So the important distinction with all of this
is Kirk's arguments for God existence
is not scientific proof that every alternative explanation
is impossible, but the origins of the universe, the life,
especially consciousness and morality
are separate questions.
And scientists and philosophers continue
to debate aspects of them.
And some of the questions that we're going to ask
at the end of the space is going
to revolve around those questions.
We're going to have you guys answer them in what you think.
So one of humanity's biggest questions
is where did everything come from?
And is there evidence that God exists?