OORT Roundtable: Who owns the data that trains AI?

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Karadau BD负责人Kalash介绍该项目用零知识证明和多方计算打通Web2与Web3身份、让用户掌控数据,并探讨AI时代内容创作者数据被无偿用于训练模型却难获收益的问题。 - 核心痛点:互联网上所有内容、互动甚至音乐艺术都在喂养AI模型,产生数十亿美元价值却被少数人获取,创作者几乎拿不到任何版税或署名。 - 嘉宾背景:Kalash Momgan是法国最大零知识身份项目Karadau的BD经理,该项目借助ZK与MPC技术让用户真正拥有并控制自己的数据。 - Karadau定位:双向去中心化地桥接Web2与Web3身份,让用户在不牺牲隐私的前提下拥有数据和声誉。 - AI探索:Karadau近期推出AI驱动的预测市场代理,利用社交与链上数据帮助交易者过滤噪音、追踪真实策略。 - 主持人项目:Oort是去中心化数据云,提供一层基础设施与DApp,产品包括Data Hub(人工贡献并验证干净训练数据)、基于Deimos硬件的去中心化存储(全球数千节点、零宕机)以及社媒增长代理AI ON。 - 活动激励:直播期间有100 USDT活动,10名获奖者,5个问题从评论区实时选取,另5个"收听证明"奖在结束后选出。 - 讨论问题:Karadau如何改变人们不把浏览历史等数据视为己有的观念,以及"数据所有权"在平台上实际意味着什么。 结论:数据所有权不能停留在概念上,项目方应把"用户掌控数据并获得回报"做成可验证的产品机制,创作者也应主动选择支持署名与分润的数据平台。

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because every piece of content ever created on the internet, every social pause, even songs, music, art, every interaction is feeding AI models that are generating billions of value being siphoned to a small group of people. And the people who created content see almost none of Revenue. And a lot of people, since I've been in space for a very long time, I've seen a lot of content creators complaining that their data has been stolen or duplicated and no any royalty, no credits given. That is pretty often a situation online. So today we have two guests, and I will be waiting for the second guest to join us. But if they have technical difficulties, we'll have to carry on without them. And first of all, let me introduce, we have our guest, Kalash Momgan. BD Manager at Karadau. Karadau is the largest zero-knowledge ID in France. I think that's how you put it in Web3 using NPC and zero-knowledge technologies to give users real ownership and control over the data. Kalash, welcome. If you are comfortable, please unmute yourself and maybe give a very quick introduction about you and your project. Sure, Shaman. Thank you for the nice introduction, Krola. I'm very much comfortable. So hello, everyone, who all have joined this space. My name is Kalash and I need business development at Karadau. And we have been deep in this socializing for a while now. If you have been around just kissing, knowing about that kissing, or heard it about, you have probably heard about us. We are one of the biggest protocols in the ecosystem. So our whole mission at Karadau is to bridge Web2 and Web3 identities in a two-way decentralized manner. We are actually using zero-knowledge tools, which is known as ZK and multi-party computation, which is NPC to do with that. Think of it like owning of your data and throwing your reputation all without giving up your privacy. Recently, we have been also exploring the AI space using our QCAD AI power prediction market agent. This is a market agent that helps two traders to cut through the noise. They track real skills strategies. They are tools provided in this. This product, which you can surface high signal token of Baltimore D is using social and on-chain data. It is a mixed approach. So I'm really excited to be here today and that topic today is super exciting. I'm really looking forward to that sharing some of my thoughts and looking to know more about this topic from other people as well. Thank you so much. Thank you, Kalash, for joining us today. This is honestly a pleasure. And I don't think we have a opportunity to speak with you before. So, and I know that we have been collaborating. We had a partnership announcement back in April this year. So it's really good to finally connect you personally on this level. All right, then let's move on to the space. And this is the thing that a lot of people have been waiting for. Quick housekeeping, actually. We have 100 USDT campaign running right now. 10 winners in total. Five questions will be picked live from the comments during this space. And five proof of listening winners will be selected right after this space. So drop your questions in a comment right now and follow both Oort and Oort VN and also Kalash and stay till the end of the space. Do not leave early, not to miss your shot. And moving on, we can start with our quick introduction so Oort, for those who might not know, for those who are joining us new word is a decentralized data storage. It's a data cloud. We also have full infra with layer one solutions and DAPS built on it. This is a very, very own one-stop solution for data companies and AI companies to shop for data and also connect with community. We have several products in our line, such as Data Hub, which is a data, a human contributors, verifying and contributing clean data for data set trainings, AI trainings. And then we have storage, which is a decentralized storage based on the day months, one and two hardware networks. Several thousands are distributed across the world right now and our Oort magnet so far had absolutely zero down. Down times. So this is one of the things and we're also currently working on AI products such as AI ON, which is our in-house agent system that helps you monitor and grow your social media presence almost for free. And moving on. Now that we have finished with the introductions, I want the community to hear from Yulkallage and then we will get into the questions picked live from the community. So here we go. Let's go with question number one. So Karattao is built around giving users control over their traditional internet data and web3 data. So there's a problem that most people don't think that we're the history or the Walla history as something that they own. They just use it, they just keep it. How did you change that perception and what does ownership actually mean in practice on your platform? That is really an important question. Like I think like the biggest problem like the people don't realize that how valuable the data is, like everyday vision, information like two or social media using different web3 applications and do our transactions on Zoom. So all that time, over a time that all creates a picture of who we are, it creates a digital identity of what this person is, what this person is interested and how this person is behaving in the internet. But most people really don't have the control of their data. Like how this information is being used, how the internet is making a picture of digital identity of your VR and how the advertisers or other data who want to target this specific user can use this data. So like at Canada, like the idea is to help users to make more control of their web3 answer. Like I think we need to change the mindset from simply giving access to the platform, like our information and all these data stuff from web2 from your Facebook, Instagram and all these apps into web3 on crypto, and the actions, all the addresses, they all have a control. So while giving the access to more information, we are bound to give access to information to online, but it should have more transparency and more control like how it is being shared in this digital world. So like an ownership doesn't actually mean like every piece of data is stored in one place or you can possibly make control over all these things, but it means like control over access and understanding like how these information are being used and how alerts advertisers and other companies are using it to target the audience and make informed decisions using it. Like so you should able to share only what is necessary. You don't have to share everything. So you should have the right what advertisers or anything can see. So I think the future of data ownership is giving more control to users. Like users should have their control. One data should be shared and what shouldn't. Like and reducing like unnecessary exposure in the internet or giving up all your transactions, all your data and being more transparent. So a company should be more transparent. Like what data they are controlling over. Users should know what data they have on the internet. So this was my take and like the current capabilities we are using as we said, and PC and that KC and that KC is zero boost. And we are heading over in the AI space also. So we are doing all these stuff to like to give control over their data using AI also using it and making much more tools to help like traders who trade over the on-chain. So this was all about this question. Thank you very much. I love this answer. This is really good. I also agree that data ownership should start with a user. I think that a lot of users might not even know that they have these freedoms or that the data been siphoned from them this way. As in like how many people you've seen in your life that you know, a click on accept trends conditions without even reading them. And that is the whole action. Absolutely. And absolutely that's the use of now in previous time like there was not much tracking happening over the internet. But with the use of AI like the AI can specially target the person. He knows everything about them. But also it with three also like what is a browsing and what is the payments online. So it is a mix of like with the use of a total hijack of data from the users. So we are getting more comfortable and more active over the future. That's a very good compliment. Oh yeah. That's how we move it. This is a very good example of how people should keep their online history hygiene in the sense of you know, hide your IP address if possible. You know, use an animators, you know, not to let any advertisers track your data and extorting the value without helping you also getting the revenue. Any kind of royalty back. So I totally support and understand this is a really good way. Like for example, in in order our application doesn't collect any data whatsoever on the user. But in does collect information sessions when you're online, how often you're online and that's pretty much it. That's really interesting actually. So actually I have a question to you. Maybe a bit of outside the scope. So when a user actually utilizes the data through Carab Dow, what can they do with it the next day that they couldn't do before? Can they see who is accessing their data? Well, that access, get paid for it, the data. How does it work from the, you know, for the user POV on your platform? You're on it. Yeah, it's a really nice question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was, this is a bit, so example. That is a really nice question. Like how we are using it to like have the career control over the data users given control over it. So I like you know the short brief on how Carab Dow is focused on intersection of data on the ship and the SPL and P. So whenever you like sign up on our platform, like we can control over all the data and we are using your token, like whatever volatility we're using, we are hiding it from the on-chain world. So no other, was completely shared with that. First of all, like we'll do it on our hot platform and now we are making up most platforms to do that thing. Second thing we are like doing, basically we are right now focusing on a Q-Gad for a prediction market agent that will like help traders to put some out like, we will help the traders to give the social chain data, all the tweets that I've been using, how the person is doing that which what all tweets or what all things can affect their token price or these things, the community sentiments all together. With the community sentiments and also the some, there was some companies that did organizations that have made some wallets or if there is a project doing some illegal activity or something like that, behind the scenes. So we are giving on-chain data to all the details to the user and to a total control of the details of over any problem. So you've been making profit like that. Oh, I see. Well, that sounds very interesting, especially for the cryptocurrency users because for people in Web3 keeping the online hygiene is like the most important thing not to lick your any data, be it private key or anything related to your personality. So this is a really helpful one for the community. Then in this case, let's move on to the next question. So there is a question about the carada again. So it describes itself as the largest ZKID infrastructure with multiple DAPs built on top of it. Most people usually when they hear zero knowledge, they would not really understand because it's a quite technical term for people outside of crypto. So if we could break it down for us, what does ZKID actually do for a regular user trying to own the data? So what does it protect them from? That they could protect them themselves. Your question is totally, totally, totally viable. I also think sometimes your knowledge can sound very complicated to the user. But the basic idea is very simple. Like imagine the user wants to prove something about yourself on the internet. Without the information being released, you want to prove a certain deployment on the internet without sharing your identity of exposing related details in related to your wallet as it is also on web, related to a wallet as well. So traditionally, applications often ask more information that you need to use.

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