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waiting for him to come on.
If once he figured the fuck out, you know,
so I was just like, yeah.
Yeah, I would, I would like to hear his take on,
you know, how being a corn and some of that.
I thought he did very well.
And even when he should have pushed back more
on how they was accusing him of all this stuff
and all he really wanted was the transparency.
I don't like that,
but I wish he would have pushed back even more on it,
but he tried to, he kept it, but he did let us know,
you know, that he let us know.
He did let me tell you about it.
And just as black people in America, I just,
I'm looking at this.
I'm glad they got good team.
I'm glad I got a good team around them
and they actually stand what needed to be said now,
because they did say that in the press conference
and kind of let it be known a lot of the things
that we need to talk about.
And it's still kind of open light.
And if we could hear from the jurors
in the Lindsey Clancy case and him be attacking
all kind of stuff like that.
This was the grand jury.
This wasn't a, yeah, but the way it was secret
and we know that they weren't given all of the information
that their, that crumpling them is putting out now.
That's kind of like, oh, that's definitely something
that has to be looked into because if I was the juror,
I would want to hear, you know,
I want you to give me just like a piece of paint
to just make sure I say, oh, there's nothing there.
When there's actually stuff there.
So that's my, I don't want to,
I would like to hear what Judge has to say
after hearing that to see if he's changed
his position a little bit and not so hyperbolic,
but I mean, just hearing that as a legal professional,
I mean, I know he gonna call it a race,
baton, money grab for being a crook and all that.
I know he gonna do that little one too for his audience,
but I mean, come on, bro.
There's nothing on wrong here.
There's no probable cause.
There's no way you can get any against anyone for homicide.
That's what grand, I'm not saying that, Judge,
but there's no reason to put the suspicion
where all the respect.
No, the reasonable suspicion has nothing to do
with an indictment you have to have probable cause.
The reasonable suspicion may give some cop the authority
to go further in the approach to a citizen
under certain circumstances,
but a grand jury has to be presented with probable cause.
That is independent evidence that presented
to an independent assessor with not an expert knowledge
in the subject would be convinced
that a crime is likely to,
Well, come on, I asked you this, Judge.
I asked you this.
So the people that they interview as potential witnesses,
and I'm not even gonna say based
of some of the inconsistencies that we heard
in the office of Tatum interviews,
I think he did them a total disservice
cause they're not even supposed to talk like that
according to attorney, but like,
so none of those statements that we heard about the time
and when they live and when they talk.
Like none of that, like, no, no,
I'm asking if they were interview like, do we?
You don't, look, let me tell you this.
Grand jury is a supposed operating secret.
The own, the federal system,
the only time you get any idea what the grand jury is done
is after a witness is testified.
If he has testified in front of a grand jury,
you're entitled to get a transcript in 15 minutes,
20 minutes, 30 minutes to read it.
So just can I ask you, the whip you
and framing the information?
I'm gonna break it.
Hold on.
Are you framing any information
that people were asking interview?
Listen, listen, listen, it's none of our business.
It's secret.
States don't reveal what goes on in the grand jury.
Murder, murder, I'll see.
I lock you up if you tried to find out
what somebody did during the grand jury
or tried to inquire through the grand jury for them.
It's secret.
That's what grand jury's doing.
They don't release information unless they choose to.
So what about, what being crunchy about
do not be enabled to,
what, what do not be,
it might be enabled to present their side
to the grand jury.
Like what, is that not true?
The grand, it doesn't make any difference.
It does.
Relicable.
You're telling an expert who's done this
for more than a half century.
So we should trust everybody that collect
the original evidence.
Why do you talk over when you're asking?
I'm just asking.
I am telling you, this is carefully,
grand juries are secret.
The DA in a lot of states has no entitlement
to even address a grand jury unless they invite them or her.
You testify in front of a grand jury
under two circumstances,
either they're seeking a proceeding
upon what they call presentment,
which deals with an indictment
or they're dealing with something where they're being asked
request being made to return a no-true bill.
And then they have a method
where they can conduct independent investigation.
Let's say if they decide to look
into the district attorney.
So those methods are theirs.
They conduct their proceedings in secret.
If they choose to invite witnesses
and swear them in, that's what happens.
What goes on in a jury room,
either a grand jury room or the petted jury room
where they deliberate on a verdict is secret.
What happens in a courtroom
when a witness is on the stand under oath,
subject to penalties of perjury
is totally different from what people say off the record.
Sometimes what they say off the record
can be used to impeach them,
but it's not evidence.
What we get today from our mainstream media
is essentially a pile of bullsh**.
Oh, here you go.
Like Trump.
I am fired.
All the media.
Fire all the independent media.
Okay, here you go, dude.
Go to your place.
They don't know what they're doing.
They got 22-year-old sitting in a newsroom
that have no law training.
They didn't listen in the fifth grade
or they don't teach it in the fifth grade now
like they used to so they don't have a clue.
And they try to maximize ratings
for commercial purposes.
Being Trump is never tried to case
so I wouldn't be impressed by what he does
and does not know.
What about the law team that was with him today?
You know what I'm saying?
None of them tried to case.
Some of them said they had.
They're in one of them's in his firm and they're getting PR
and I looked at the number of cases they tried to do.
What about the guy from Mississippi
who turned his command that said he should try several?
You're talking over me.
I'm just asking what about him?
The number of cases.
What do you see?
The number of cases that entire crew has tried.
Don't come up to the number
that your typical public defender is tried in six months.
So I find it interesting.
What did they lose those cases?
Or all of them?
No, and it doesn't make any difference.
See a public defender
or a practicing criminal defense lawyer used to take 10, 15 cases.
He had tried a month, not in his whole damn career.
I tried close to 4,000 cases as a lawyer
and no telling how many in Memphis
as a criminal court judge in one of the business jury,
business jury, I made my own daughter.
So point of the exercise is,
is you've got people who have not done the legal equivalent
of what doctors do when they do an internship
in a residency in a hospital.
They get a lot of cases thrown at them.
So they get a lot of experience.
So what did they do wrong?
Just like give me your top three, your top three things.
You did wrong.
There's nothing for them to do.
There's nothing they could do.
What bottom line is if they want to file a civil suit,
they can still do that.
Against who though?
They don't.
You dash it.
Who the point is is there about to be sued
for defamation of character,
which is going to be interesting.
Who?
Because it been crumpling his boys.
Who did they defaming?
They have crossed the line.
So by asking for transparency,
they defaming it some more.
They have no entitlement to transparency.
That's a political issue with the district attorney.
If he wants to do it, that's his business.
So transparency is not a thing in judicial or law ethics.
There's no transparency to what grand jury's do.
Well, what about the investigation
that they did being just honestly looked at or...
I haven't seen anything.
I mean, I've been doing this for 55 years.
There's nobody in the United States of America
that tried more cases.
So I mean, there's something that have tried as many
of very few, but none of who had tried.
But they didn't get to a trial.
They didn't get to a trial.
So why are we talking about your trial experience?
That's what I'm talking about.
When I'm talking about somebody that has had thousands
or hundreds of trials,
and somebody that doesn't even have 10,
who do you think is the expert?
That don't mean they could win on any given day.
They can't win, it's not anything they have an entitlement
to be part of unless a state has passed something
that says victims' rights get intrude,
get to intrude in the process.
So, No, No, No, Well, it's a matter of...
This is the way it goes.
No, no, no, I'm asking you.
Is No, No, No, No, The, The, The, The, The...
If you be quiet, I'm giving you a last.
Is No, No, The, The, The, The, The, The, The, The, The...
Excuse me.
This is something that first year law students
have to understand. In a criminal matter, the entire interest is about the public peace
dignity and order of the sovereign entity. If somebody is too privileged, get off this
sovereign entity that we have all been living on. No, the tell the truth. They're more
excuse me. A system where you can't get transparency. What is that? You just said I couldn't
have it. And we're not entitled to it because the DA, the president, you said the DA
discretion makes me not entitled to it. So what?
So why am I entitled to? Because of the constitution and being a American, you should get the full
legal process. So the constitution isn't ready for Americans to get, you know, like a fool.
Why you to be an ignorant? No, I'm asking questions. I don't learn from you because you're
mouth, the bed in listen. You're not asking intelligent questions. Okay, sir. Did you
don't have the knowledge of a fourth of fifth of sixth grade student? No, I just
haven't been to law school. So I ain't trying to be different. You don't have to. This
is from the fifth. Your honor. I'm just asking a question. This is from the fifth grade.
No, they don't see that in public schools. Well, they don't think law if they're free.
They used to. Well, they don't know more. Just talk about it. If you haven't been to
law school, maybe you should listen to somebody that has one. I'm not. You shut the fuck up.
I get to talk to God damn. Love them talk. Now God damn it. If you have heard of a secret
indictment where the grand jury indict 68 folk who are in a massive drug ring that is
enforced by gangsters and cartels, people die. They don't come up and say, oh, these are the
people that talked us. You might want to know so you can go murder them and take a contract
out on them. No fool. They're a secret. That's why they're a secret because a lot of times
they deal with sensitive stuff and they don't want witnesses compromised in terms of their
physical integrity and well-being because some jerk ass wants to make a story out of it.
That's why they're secret. Because you see this every now and then a prosecutor who's
on his job comes up, strips the cover off of a blackboard or a board and there are 58 names
up there. People they got secretly indicted in the fugitive squads been out picking them
up all night long. That's why it's secret. So where in the hell do you get this idea that
you have a right to go find out what the devil the grand jury's been doing? You don't. And
if you tried to get in there, that's a crime. I am on mute. Now. Well, the reason why I
asked that, Judge, we all do respect it because in black communities, a lot of the time
with social media now, a lot of things in the black community, people got this thing
called like paperwork parties where they put out paperwork about who said what in these
investigations and proceedings and it causes a lot of murder in the black community because
of the stop snitching thing. And when people find out who told something, a lot of that