Grand Jury Clears Nolan Wells friends | Open Mic 🎙️

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黑人法律评论者讨论林赛·克兰西案大陪审团程序,认为检方未向陪审团呈现全部证据,陪审团保密制度被用作掩盖信息不透明的工具。 - 评论者对克兰西案中大陪审团程序表示质疑,认为陪审团未被提供全部信息,最终裁决可能因此失真。 - 评论者指出大陪审团程序本质上是保密的,各州不公开大陪审团 proceedings,除非大陪审团自己选择披露。 - 嘉宾(法官)强调,大陪审团需要的是"合理根据"(probable cause),而非"合理怀疑"(reasonable suspicion);后者仅适用于警察拦截等场景。 - 评论者质疑检方在 Tatum 办公室访谈中对待潜在证人的方式,认为证人不应被允许那样陈述,这可能对当事人不公。 - 法官指出,联邦系统中只有在证人作证后,当事人才有资格在15-30分钟内阅读笔录;州系统中大陪审团内容完全保密。 - 评论者希望听到大陪审团成员(Lindsey Clancy案)公开表态,并质疑检方是否向大陪审团隐瞒了关键信息。 - 嘉宾批评对方将大陪审团程序与种族议题挂钩,称之为"种族诱饵"和"敛财"行为,认为这种说法是在迎合特定受众。 建议关注大陪审团程序的透明度问题,推动制度性改革以确保控辩双方信息对等。

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waiting for him to come on. If once he figured the fuck out, you know, so I was just like, yeah. Yeah, I would, I would like to hear his take on, you know, how being a corn and some of that. I thought he did very well. And even when he should have pushed back more on how they was accusing him of all this stuff and all he really wanted was the transparency. I don't like that, but I wish he would have pushed back even more on it, but he tried to, he kept it, but he did let us know, you know, that he let us know. He did let me tell you about it. And just as black people in America, I just, I'm looking at this. I'm glad they got good team. I'm glad I got a good team around them and they actually stand what needed to be said now, because they did say that in the press conference and kind of let it be known a lot of the things that we need to talk about. And it's still kind of open light. And if we could hear from the jurors in the Lindsey Clancy case and him be attacking all kind of stuff like that. This was the grand jury. This wasn't a, yeah, but the way it was secret and we know that they weren't given all of the information that their, that crumpling them is putting out now. That's kind of like, oh, that's definitely something that has to be looked into because if I was the juror, I would want to hear, you know, I want you to give me just like a piece of paint to just make sure I say, oh, there's nothing there. When there's actually stuff there. So that's my, I don't want to, I would like to hear what Judge has to say after hearing that to see if he's changed his position a little bit and not so hyperbolic, but I mean, just hearing that as a legal professional, I mean, I know he gonna call it a race, baton, money grab for being a crook and all that. I know he gonna do that little one too for his audience, but I mean, come on, bro. There's nothing on wrong here. There's no probable cause. There's no way you can get any against anyone for homicide. That's what grand, I'm not saying that, Judge, but there's no reason to put the suspicion where all the respect. No, the reasonable suspicion has nothing to do with an indictment you have to have probable cause. The reasonable suspicion may give some cop the authority to go further in the approach to a citizen under certain circumstances, but a grand jury has to be presented with probable cause. That is independent evidence that presented to an independent assessor with not an expert knowledge in the subject would be convinced that a crime is likely to, Well, come on, I asked you this, Judge. I asked you this. So the people that they interview as potential witnesses, and I'm not even gonna say based of some of the inconsistencies that we heard in the office of Tatum interviews, I think he did them a total disservice cause they're not even supposed to talk like that according to attorney, but like, so none of those statements that we heard about the time and when they live and when they talk. Like none of that, like, no, no, I'm asking if they were interview like, do we? You don't, look, let me tell you this. Grand jury is a supposed operating secret. The own, the federal system, the only time you get any idea what the grand jury is done is after a witness is testified. If he has testified in front of a grand jury, you're entitled to get a transcript in 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes to read it. So just can I ask you, the whip you and framing the information? I'm gonna break it. Hold on. Are you framing any information that people were asking interview? Listen, listen, listen, it's none of our business. It's secret. States don't reveal what goes on in the grand jury. Murder, murder, I'll see. I lock you up if you tried to find out what somebody did during the grand jury or tried to inquire through the grand jury for them. It's secret. That's what grand jury's doing. They don't release information unless they choose to. So what about, what being crunchy about do not be enabled to, what, what do not be, it might be enabled to present their side to the grand jury. Like what, is that not true? The grand, it doesn't make any difference. It does. Relicable. You're telling an expert who's done this for more than a half century. So we should trust everybody that collect the original evidence. Why do you talk over when you're asking? I'm just asking. I am telling you, this is carefully, grand juries are secret. The DA in a lot of states has no entitlement to even address a grand jury unless they invite them or her. You testify in front of a grand jury under two circumstances, either they're seeking a proceeding upon what they call presentment, which deals with an indictment or they're dealing with something where they're being asked request being made to return a no-true bill. And then they have a method where they can conduct independent investigation. Let's say if they decide to look into the district attorney. So those methods are theirs. They conduct their proceedings in secret. If they choose to invite witnesses and swear them in, that's what happens. What goes on in a jury room, either a grand jury room or the petted jury room where they deliberate on a verdict is secret. What happens in a courtroom when a witness is on the stand under oath, subject to penalties of perjury is totally different from what people say off the record. Sometimes what they say off the record can be used to impeach them, but it's not evidence. What we get today from our mainstream media is essentially a pile of bullsh**. Oh, here you go. Like Trump. I am fired. All the media. Fire all the independent media. Okay, here you go, dude. Go to your place. They don't know what they're doing. They got 22-year-old sitting in a newsroom that have no law training. They didn't listen in the fifth grade or they don't teach it in the fifth grade now like they used to so they don't have a clue. And they try to maximize ratings for commercial purposes. Being Trump is never tried to case so I wouldn't be impressed by what he does and does not know. What about the law team that was with him today? You know what I'm saying? None of them tried to case. Some of them said they had. They're in one of them's in his firm and they're getting PR and I looked at the number of cases they tried to do. What about the guy from Mississippi who turned his command that said he should try several? You're talking over me. I'm just asking what about him? The number of cases. What do you see? The number of cases that entire crew has tried. Don't come up to the number that your typical public defender is tried in six months. So I find it interesting. What did they lose those cases? Or all of them? No, and it doesn't make any difference. See a public defender or a practicing criminal defense lawyer used to take 10, 15 cases. He had tried a month, not in his whole damn career. I tried close to 4,000 cases as a lawyer and no telling how many in Memphis as a criminal court judge in one of the business jury, business jury, I made my own daughter. So point of the exercise is, is you've got people who have not done the legal equivalent of what doctors do when they do an internship in a residency in a hospital. They get a lot of cases thrown at them. So they get a lot of experience. So what did they do wrong? Just like give me your top three, your top three things. You did wrong. There's nothing for them to do. There's nothing they could do. What bottom line is if they want to file a civil suit, they can still do that. Against who though? They don't. You dash it. Who the point is is there about to be sued for defamation of character, which is going to be interesting. Who? Because it been crumpling his boys. Who did they defaming? They have crossed the line. So by asking for transparency, they defaming it some more. They have no entitlement to transparency. That's a political issue with the district attorney. If he wants to do it, that's his business. So transparency is not a thing in judicial or law ethics. There's no transparency to what grand jury's do. Well, what about the investigation that they did being just honestly looked at or... I haven't seen anything. I mean, I've been doing this for 55 years. There's nobody in the United States of America that tried more cases. So I mean, there's something that have tried as many of very few, but none of who had tried. But they didn't get to a trial. They didn't get to a trial. So why are we talking about your trial experience? That's what I'm talking about. When I'm talking about somebody that has had thousands or hundreds of trials, and somebody that doesn't even have 10, who do you think is the expert? That don't mean they could win on any given day. They can't win, it's not anything they have an entitlement to be part of unless a state has passed something that says victims' rights get intrude, get to intrude in the process. So, No, No, No, Well, it's a matter of... This is the way it goes. No, no, no, I'm asking you. Is No, No, No, No, The, The, The, The, The... If you be quiet, I'm giving you a last. Is No, No, The, The, The, The, The, The, The, The, The... Excuse me. This is something that first year law students have to understand. In a criminal matter, the entire interest is about the public peace dignity and order of the sovereign entity. If somebody is too privileged, get off this sovereign entity that we have all been living on. No, the tell the truth. They're more excuse me. A system where you can't get transparency. What is that? You just said I couldn't have it. And we're not entitled to it because the DA, the president, you said the DA discretion makes me not entitled to it. So what? So why am I entitled to? Because of the constitution and being a American, you should get the full legal process. So the constitution isn't ready for Americans to get, you know, like a fool. Why you to be an ignorant? No, I'm asking questions. I don't learn from you because you're mouth, the bed in listen. You're not asking intelligent questions. Okay, sir. Did you don't have the knowledge of a fourth of fifth of sixth grade student? No, I just haven't been to law school. So I ain't trying to be different. You don't have to. This is from the fifth. Your honor. I'm just asking a question. This is from the fifth grade. No, they don't see that in public schools. Well, they don't think law if they're free. They used to. Well, they don't know more. Just talk about it. If you haven't been to law school, maybe you should listen to somebody that has one. I'm not. You shut the fuck up. I get to talk to God damn. Love them talk. Now God damn it. If you have heard of a secret indictment where the grand jury indict 68 folk who are in a massive drug ring that is enforced by gangsters and cartels, people die. They don't come up and say, oh, these are the people that talked us. You might want to know so you can go murder them and take a contract out on them. No fool. They're a secret. That's why they're a secret because a lot of times they deal with sensitive stuff and they don't want witnesses compromised in terms of their physical integrity and well-being because some jerk ass wants to make a story out of it. That's why they're secret. Because you see this every now and then a prosecutor who's on his job comes up, strips the cover off of a blackboard or a board and there are 58 names up there. People they got secretly indicted in the fugitive squads been out picking them up all night long. That's why it's secret. So where in the hell do you get this idea that you have a right to go find out what the devil the grand jury's been doing? You don't. And if you tried to get in there, that's a crime. I am on mute. Now. Well, the reason why I asked that, Judge, we all do respect it because in black communities, a lot of the time with social media now, a lot of things in the black community, people got this thing called like paperwork parties where they put out paperwork about who said what in these investigations and proceedings and it causes a lot of murder in the black community because of the stop snitching thing. And when people find out who told something, a lot of that

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