The Conservative Hour: The Forever Wars

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保守派播客《The Conservative Hour》讨论"永久战争"与"不义战争"概念,并因嘉宾与来电者就反犹言论和加沙儿童死亡内容的激烈争执而失控。 - 主持人开场提到"永久战争"和"不义战争"这两个说法,认为美国人习惯将未来所有战争与阿富汗、伊拉克对比,并批评各届政府在战争沟通上都很失败。 - 主持人Kristie补充观点:有些战争起因正当,但因任务蔓延或目标改变而变得不再正当,中东几场战争就是典型例子。 - 嘉宾"Ranger"到场,自称因耶稣基督的恩典蒙福,并称自己爱犹太人。 - 来电者Julia指责Ranger曾在评论区称犹太人为"tiny hats"、称他人为"wallickers",质疑其反犹言论。 - Ranger辩称自己已戒酒七年多,当时言论是对"极其恶心侮辱性内容"的回应。 - Ranger反指Julia主页上有展示儿童被残害的内容并加以取笑,称同样令人作呕。 - 双方就"是否在庆祝加沙儿童死亡"互相质问,要求对方出示具体帖子,节目陷入争吵。 - 节目中途插播歌曲(Red乐队的《Severed》),主持人称适合健身时听。 结论:本期节目从战争伦理讨论迅速滑向人身攻击和指控,建议听众对双方未经证实的截图指控保持审慎,理性核实信息来源。

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ESPN even said it. Oh yeah it's a fully thing because greater fans have got to be up there too that they're pretty pretty vicious as well. You don't want to mess with greater fans. They were like the greater fans are a bunch of poser rich people from Vegas because the fucking tickets are so expensive. Like all those guys from the black hole they're still smoking weed and Oakland somewhere. Yeah I was talking about those fans. I was talking about the the lost Vegas radio fans. I remember the first game that the Ravens had here that won black dude with like road warrior spikes. Rader he was there. I was like man holy crap man you take this way too seriously but you do you bro. Anyway songs coming up. Here we go. The conservative hour. I hope everybody's having a fantastic afternoon. That song is called severed by red. If you have never heard red they have some absolutely excellent music. Great music to work out to. Love it. That's one of my favorite songs because again when you're trying to lift weights off you need a little bit of something you know slow jams aren't going quite do it. Today we want to talk about it. By the way can I just say Nathan I didn't realize you guys had an opening song. I've never been here this early before. I didn't realize there was an oh I thought it was only an exit song. That's 15 five in the merits for a b. Samsung everybody. Sadly. I'm going to talk about not just the forever war thing but the unjust work is those are stuff that a lot of us have heard all our lives and I've never really understood when someone says it's unjust what does that mean because I'm like I feel like any war is unjust to anyone it's at any time but the forever war thing I think that's one of the things that I think a lot of us are the mindset that a lot of Americans are stuck in in the sense that every time we go to war every single war probably for the rest of some of our lives is going to be compared to Afghanistan and Iraq regardless of what the circumstances are and I know a lot of us get frustrated because there's some people that feel like this is where it is and there's some people that like this is where it isn't but one of the things that I was just talking to my wife about that frustrates me about all the wars we have all administrations really suck at communicating some things about the war and I think that's kind of part of the problem is regardless of who's in the white house it's hard to do something like this and even though I know the people are going to say well this is wrong and this is wrong and I get that it is but it also it's not an easy thing to do to go to war with another country it's not just as simple as hey we're going to war everything is going to work out exactly as we planned but I see that we have a special guest here today so I'm going to introduce the host and get the hell out of the way how you doing Lauren? Hello, hope everybody's doing well yeah I will zip it on my thoughts on this subject until a little later I don't usually like to go off in the beginning anyway but yeah I have thoughts Kristie all right good morning oh I have thoughts on her thoughts of course you all right good morning everybody good morning everybody welcome to the conservative hour should be an interesting topic today I have my own takes on this topic some wars aren't just some aren't some wars were started with the right cause and then ended up not being the right there's too much mission creep or the objectives changed I happened in a few of our Middle Eastern wars where they actually did start just but they didn't end per se just and we lost a lot of troops fighting um long political wars but I did invite someone I Ranger actually showed up so I we asked didn't know you what man but how you doing today bud? Man blessed and highly favorite a piece of mercy of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with all of you thanks for having me all right you fill that same way about our Jewish friends absolutely 100 years I love you once you call them tiny hats and all that crazy stuff in my in my comment section was that the alcohol talking or no I don't drink I've been sober for over seven years now so I did say that after it was in response to some very disgusting and insulting things that were said to me yeah but we're actually saying it to a lot of non-Jewish people you were calling them wallickers and every post you have is pretty fucked up so I don't know what you're talking about what if you have I've looked at your page as well Julia especially the ones where it shows children being killed in horrific ways and you laughing about it I think those are pretty disgusting as well where is that post on your on your page post it in the post let me see where I was celebrating the death of many children okay give me a second here let me go to your poster I can go to your poster it's gonna be something about Gaza watch was I believe it is our guys in I don't know Chris I want to ask a question was was was 10 seven an inside job I think that there are some discrepancies on the state of the Israeli defense forces and some of the other let's just say questions that have gone unanswered such as the ones that Charlie Kirk was asking prior to the October the 7th as far as the extent to which it was allowed or exacerbated is up for debate and of course we know through history through well documented history that intelligence communities present false flags massada is known for just our CIA is known for it MI6 as well there's quite a bit of documentation showing that so yeah I don't know for sure but it's there's some things that seem a little off to me especially someone that has worked overseas quite a bit both in in the military and private contracting and worked with intelligence agencies and know how they operate so yeah there's some things from a security standpoint that don't make a lot of sense to someone to someone like me okay do you think that the how I'm asking themselves though like physically carried out the attack and their allied groups yeah yeah I believe that the perpetrators the people that committed violence on that day were we're certainly not good people I am no fan of radical Islam or or G-Piles specifically they were specifically they were Palestinians from Gaza led by Hamas but others as well right you you read that if you are to believe the reports if you are to believe the reports yes I would say if they have it is from the evidence that I have seen yes the people that are taking responsibility for that attack were Hamas all right okay so then they deserve what's coming to them regardless if if there was other people involved hypothetically I don't obviously I don't buy that but if there was or someone was like you know let them in or whatever then they those people also deserve to be punished but we don't have our evidence of that we do have hard evidence that a bunch of Palestinians like 6,000 you know several brigades worth of soldiers and you know whatever whatever I'm an American and I believe that the United States that of America has committed terrorist acts around the world does that mean that on behalf of my government or bad people within my government if they did atrocious things that all of Americans should be killed wait what terrorist attack of the United States launched that was as big as October 7th please and for me we went to Iraq on a false premise and many other countries on false premises and killed hundreds of thousands of terrorists attack or was it declared war not a declared war but it was actually the people that were in Congress approved war do you think when did Congress approve Iraq war what day was that I don't recall it I don't think it was ever was declared a war by Congress it wasn't declared a war because we haven't declared a war since since World War II there was an AMF so that's exactly that that that that that even supports my opinion even more so as someone who prosecuted that war and was there quite a bit is you a terrorist are you a terrorist are you a hold on I just want to say stop coming from the from some position of authority because if I had to be chalk in here he wouldn't be happy with what your brother you're saying right now so you're not just because you're a veteran you're you're your point of view are your point of use there's plenty of veterans that disagree with you so please stop the color of the world I know I messaged people on where is beach I'm more than happy to talk to them as well that makes no difference to me the truth is that mean that we are a terrorist because you were complicit in following orders of a terrorist war does that make you a terrorist I believe that the actions taken by the United States you love to embrace that I did not I did not I didn't you spend shit just like a fucking liberal and try to act like we're stupid to avoid our question I think this is just saying I've thought developed while he was in prison I've never been in prison in my life well you have a lot of my shots I've been to a county jail for a couple days yeah that's not prison yes I was falsely accused of intimidation with the weapon when some illegal aliens were attempting to jump me at a gas station that that that happened I'm I mean you you try to do this the other day when I tried to do it yes I'll set your name I actually said I'm gonna try to find out who you are and where I live which when people say the word that's where I live that's where I live never came out that's what I heard and I said yes no you actually said I said I'm gonna find out who you are so I can report you to your superior I know I realize that now excuse me just listen and you said if you show up to my house I'm gonna murder you and in any other time you that shows up to your body is at my front door and I meant it you said I will murder you I did not have a murder I said stack body I said stack bodies if people show up to my house I will leave a wake of bodies in the front of my house yes what's that that's what that means if I perceive an image like jahobas witnesses are like corded horse nails man or yeah like I'm in Indiana to find you know like what if people with the intent of harming me yes I would depend on myself no one ever said maybe in your fantasy mind that I was coming to your house but I'm sorry like those words never I would you want to find out where I live okay you all got like one more minute and please discrepan it I can't take you this too early please good lord range of please land whatever plane you're landed in in july you land yours and then we're gonna get into the topic see this is the problem with some of y'all people like july always causing trouble damn it I asked you for some damn better weather too yesterday fucking sucked I'm running in rain is cold today do better okay go ahead yeah july what a California video I server a canes going towards California right now I hope he at least has one of those no soliciting signs at the front to give people fair warning I just don't fucking I got that I don't know that halfway houses have that no no no junk mail no soliciting no go ahead let's hope it's witnesses I can't imagine oh I'm just gonna say my thoughts once this is done oh I got you I got you okay go ahead range it back to okay but can I just clear I'm really quick that yeah let you finish in and range in and yeah okay that this was on a public space I did not hallucinate there were several people in there when you said it this is what you do you rewrite history you didn't you just did it again with now the US is a bunch of terrorists and Israel caused 107 like it's any of you I mean you yeah I mean I still didn't get an answer to my question like I mean so you you were involved in the Iraq war when you could have if you truly believed the United States Army was carrying out a terrorist act you could have refused orders and went to prison okay but you didn't you fought you carried out your orders so do you truly believe that or are you a terrorist at the time I truly believe and still waiting to see my post about celebrating did children at the time I believe that

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