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and Ethereum, like, you know how you think you're in crypto
because you hold someone exchange.
And then COVID came and I'm in real estate,
I develop properties and I remember all of my stuff
got shut down like, I couldn't even get a porta party
from my construction sites.
And I started like looking on Instagram and Facebook
and I remember this guy talking about
you should get into crypto, there's opportunities,
blah, blah, blah.
So I called him up and I started playing a little bit on BSC,
started aping into all kinds of weird stuff on pancake swap.
And I started having a really good time,
and it was just awesome.
And that's it, I caught the bug and I'm here
and never leaving, man.
That's it.
And then nothing bad happened late 2021 or 2022
or anything like that.
She's been saling this whole time.
Oh yeah, it's just, it's just like little rainbows
and balloons and bouquets of flowers, absolutely nothing.
Yeah, I feel like the longer you're in crypto
the more you just see that every single thing
is exactly the same over and over again,
which makes me confused about why people fall
for the same stuff over and over again.
It's like this thing happens and then everyone gets rug
and then people are like what?
And it's like, but that always happens.
That happens every single time.
This happens 100% of the time.
We're like 99.99% of the time.
So why is anyone surprised?
It's ridiculous to be surprised.
There's hope in, there's hope in out here.
And when you have hope in, you're gonna,
it's gonna keep happening over and over.
Yeah, but the hope in this for something
that doesn't happen is like, it's for the point 001 for says,
like hope in for winning the lottery
and then every time you lose the lottery, you're like,
what?
I can't believe I didn't win the lottery.
This is BS though.
I just wish people like understood what the space was
and you know, like the mechanics of making money
is taking money.
And if they understand that,
then there might be less stupid about it,
but you know, people or people is what it is.
Oh great, it looks like Asias here.
Asi will help free up my hands.
Let me make you co-host.
Okay, Asi, did you get the co-host invite?
Not sure.
Not sure if it's working as you came up and then left.
But yeah, so I am right now doing laundry.
Are you doing any chores, Fitty?
No, no, I'm just gonna make some oatmeal and have coffee
and that's it, no chores, I don't do that.
You don't do chores?
No.
Wait, do you have a maid or something?
How do you, how do you,
I have a housekeeper, she does chores, yeah.
I want to, I mean, I still do stuff.
Like I'll clean my bike up before I've arrived
and you know, put oil on, on chain, things like that.
I'll make sure that my fan's in my ledger are good to go.
I'm gonna make sure I open up my, I crypto wallet,
see that it's all good.
Yeah, yeah, you know, there's different kinds of chores I do.
You know, so I have more time now
because I recently equipped my job and so I have more time.
I realize I just fill it up and I feel really busy
all the time.
So it's like, okay, and like my fill up things is like,
oh, I have to drive to the dump to like get rid of some garbage
and then I'll take like an hour or be like,
I have to go to the DMV and I'll take like six hours
and I'm like, okay, well, like, how did people,
like, I don't even remember how I had time to do anything
before I wasn't working so kind of wild like that.
You were just obsessed with me.
Changes things, I used to drive to work every day,
century city, I'm in LA and I would like,
like go to the cleaners, go to the bank.
And these are the things I talk about.
Now it's like, if I have to go to the bank
or if I have to do simple things,
like it's like a whole day of planning.
Like, oh, yeah, I have to go to the bank today.
Yeah, yesterday I was meeting my cousins for a birthday party
and it was like, oh, God, I got to drive all the way down there.
I got to get a present on and it was like a two hour thing.
I'm like, oh, and I like wait,
I didn't do anything today except for stream on the internet
and then put this birthday party and still acting
like it's a real job.
I'll see how's it going.
How are you?
Chores are amazing.
Yeah.
Thank you guys for being here
and I'm gonna give you a quick happy phone reset.
This is WPK Bridgeport 9.5 and Billy Space, 0, 0, 0, 1.
And we have friends from the AI community with us.
Dom's here and he's gonna maybe say hello if he wants to.
And he is from drainpipe.io, which we're gonna hear more about,
which makes AI's a little bit more awesome.
And purple pill, please repose the space
so we can get some more awesome lines in here.
Thanks for doing all the advertising for me.
Dominic, how's it going?
Welcome to this, the Chores face.
Are you doing Chores right now?
No, I am getting ready to go back to work
but things are going well.
Just got back from Virginia
where we hosted the Homeland Security symposium last week.
What is the Homeland Security symposium?
That sounds important.
Yeah, it's pretty much,
we have a, there's a university in just North of,
just North of Norfolk in a region called Newport News
where we have a Center for American Studies
that is a degree program for higher education
in Homeland Security and National Security.
There we host several major events every year
for the North of Hampton Roads region.
And one of them is the Homeland Security symposium.
What that does is it kind of brings together
the Homeland Security leadership, FBI leadership,
a lot of public sector leadership
to kind of discuss what's coming on as much as possible
in an open setting and then drive some questions
back and forth in a university setting,
which is really good because it creates a safe space
for leadership to be able to openly talk about things
and then get really difficult questions
that they have to go through.
Is it like a multi-day thing?
Yeah.
So I've been to like penny arcade expo and things like that
and it's just a bunch of, you know,
or you know, art basil or whatever,
it's such a bros getting together
and getting drunk and stuff.
Is it like a bunch of like Homeland Security bros
getting together and getting drunk
or is it like way more serious
than everyone's like all buttoned up and stuff?
I want to want more serious.
I mean, especially right now
because the implications are so high.
So, you know, we have drones that are now being active,
we used in Mexico among cartels.
We have AI drones?
What?
We have AI drones?
Or are they used for the region?
I mean, we have regular drones that are starting to be used
in Mexico amongst cartels, which are foreign, right?
So Mexico was starting to look very similar to Ukraine's
in that way.
Be.
So they are.
That's a good question, Dom.
I wanted to ask you that too,
because Dom is like Mr. AI, you know,
but he's also like the guy with the drone association
and I was like, we like, what is the marrying of AI in drone?
Yeah, what are the implications of drones in Mexico?
Remember, you're talking to an idiot,
doesn't know anything.
So help scare me about why I should be sucking my film at night.
It's, you know, having drones that close
to the US homeland is, you know, it creates a new threat.
So as, you know, cartels start using drones more,
now you're going to start seeing where that threat
comes closer and closer to the border
until it floods over the border.
Okay, and like, when I'm thinking of drones,
I'm thinking of, you know, like my DJI,
like thing that flies up and takes photos and stuff.
Like what does it meant by drone in this context?
Yeah, same thing.
So what they do actually,
and that's good that you have a DJI.
Is it?
So not going to slide on.
Yeah, you definitely are getting fired.
But, you know, having a DJI,
you probably know that you have a light sensor under it, right?
And essentially what happens is,
like, can you train their manufacturing
with 3D printers, these little sensors
that plug into the light sensor on your DJI?
And that is the drop mechanism for, you know,
ordinances essentially.
So can you elaborate further on that?
Because maybe I don't understand the words.
Yeah, so they use the light sensor on a DJI
to activate a drop mechanism,
which essentially drops bombs, you know,
like, we're seeing in Ukraine.
Oh, I don't like that.
Okay, well, you use the word bombs,
and now I'm scared.
Before I look at the word,
and says, I'm like, I don't know what that is.
So that's probably fun.
That's, you know, and that's what they're doing
in Mexico right now.
So, you know, I'm kind of actively involved
into all this because, you know,
I'm the founder of an AI company,
and I find myself jumping between the United States
and Europe a lot because of the kind of math that I work on.
So I work on a form of mathematics called topology.
Oh, yeah.
I think I know what that is, like, how tall things are, right?
Or essentially,
or just taking lines and tying them into knots,
just mathematically.
Okay.
That's cool.
So basically because of your AI background
and drone background,
you have gotten involved in stuff that I personally
sort of wanted to be out of sight, out of mind,
until something terrible happens.
And then I freak out, but, yeah,
that's good.
And then you do the palm issue, right?
Yeah.
It's like, I wouldn't say that I'm actively involved
in the actual like, creation of because, you know,
what I really like to see is driving awareness
to these issues,
and that's what I actively do is I drive awareness
to these issues.
And then I work closely with policymakers
to help them better understand the implications of deep tech
because we don't have enough people
who actually are in the deep tech space
that are able to articulate the risk
that advanced technologies pose on democracies.
I see.
So.
Dom, are you trying to bring Billy to the dark side?
He just recently retired.
No, no, I'm not smart enough to be part of this anyway.
I thought topology was topography or whatever.
So, yeah, I checked out a math about,
I think I was really good at math all the way through
like, I think past integrals like Diffie, Hugh and stuff.
And I was like, I don't know what this talking about.
You had to draw lines and stuff.
And I just completely tuned out at that point.
So before that math was really easy.
And then all of a sudden it was hard.
And I was like, oh, I don't like this anymore.
So that's why I went to computer science
because you don't really have to do any math.
Yeah, I mean, that stuff, you know, honestly, even for me,
like kind of stepping outside of some fractal math
and kind of getting into the Diffie,
and the Diffie helmets and all that stuff,
it does get very complicated when you start thinking about
like cryptos, right?
Like doing some of the crypto work too,
like what we're seeing and you know,
you've got chain used for is quite interesting.
Some of the math that goes into it is quite incredible.
Yeah, for me, I like crypto or pretty much anything.
Like I know everything is math.
Like if you go behind everything,
math is kind of the universal language of the world.
But I'm less of a perist about that
and I like what it can be used for up to the level of like,
how do I put it?
I don't know, making funny stuff on the internet.
Or you know, math or like blockchain as a way
to help people move stuff around and enjoy their games more
or something like that.
So that's kind of my personal interest in the stuff.
But I also do find it fascinating at a lower level
and appreciate people who are smart enough
and interested enough to go into the weeds and the stuff.
Well, what's really nice about the proliferation of
like your different like, you know,
what your Bitcoin and different blockchain tech is that it
disproved a really long fight that has been going on
amongst universities that it essentially disproved
that you can't use ashing as a valid form of representation
because in universities,
it has been long thought that you can't use ashing
as a valid form of representation.
What is there, what would that argument look like since I don't even
know what ashing is in terms of this context?
Well, when you think about how, you know, when you're doing,
you know, when you're doing like a Bitcoin mine, right?
When you're mining Bitcoin, essentially what you're doing
is you are computing a hash for a block, right?
And so what essentially happens is we're using them.