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experience.
Thanks every back on my pleasure.
Yeah.
When you're the one that's closest to the flames, tell them what's going on.
I know, right?
So living the nightmares, what I tell my friends, so it's definitely been a tough several
years or so.
And last time we were on just testified in front of Congress and the UAP Disclosure Act
of 23 was possibly getting passed.
It failed to get passed.
And then I am based on things I know about the Biden administration, things I heard
from the White House.
I decided to lay low for a year.
So 24 didn't do too much.
And then Robes and a Burleson had this crazy idea to hire me as a professional staff member
for Congress, working for him.
Turns out, I guess, I was like the first guy that ever testified in front of Congress
as a whistleblower and then being subsequently hired by Congress.
I was the first guy that would do that, which is very interesting and very cool.
And I do thank Burleson for his leadership on that.
And so I did that for about a year and a half.
Just finished up, actually.
I was like, you know what?
I'm staying longer than I thought.
I'm going to wait until Labor Day, see where things are.
I worked pretty hard over some of recess in August and deciding.
Hi, Jason.
I don't mind down some of my activities because I accomplished a lot of my objectives.
We can get into that, obviously.
And then kind of move into, I'll call it my next phase of operations, which includes
a little break for me.
It's been very tiring.
I've been kind of, you know, going full throttle for the last couple of years and whatnot.
And so we're really at a, I think, a poignant moment in US history with what Trump's done.
And the things you've seen in the media and whatnot.
And there's a lot of other stuff happening behind the scenes.
Because a lot of my work has been private behind the scenes, you know, working for Congress
specifically, Representative Burleson.
So let me ask you the environment.
So are there some people in Congress that are interested in disclosure of this stuff and
pursue you and want to find out information and want you to tell them what's going on.
And are there other people that are resisting this?
Yeah.
Hey, Jason, you can talk anytime.
I'll like pause it if you have something to say about it.
Yeah.
I think there's a big bifurcation of the non-believers and then kind of the UAP caucus.
Although you see more and more people kind of signing onto the cause.
Like I did a presser back in June in front of the Capitol with members and we even had
a Brigadier General retired representative Scott Perry there who was on the House Intelligence
Committee for my home state of PA.
And it was good to see other members, you know, start showing that they support the
cause.
But it has been challenging behind the scenes.
And I had many skiff classified meetings with the members kind of going over the topological
history of this topic and some of the deeper, darker kind of criminal stuff I bumped into
and how I worked with DOJ to kind of highlight some of that stuff.
And that's kind of criminal stuff.
Yeah.
So when I was looking into this, I had to be very respectful of my participation
in this because it's an ongoing thing with DOJ.
I was following the money, bumping in the other activities.
Very much like actually.
PCI, I'm sorry.
I had problems with my phone.
David Rosh.
Oh, I'm going to have some more name to me.
So do you know Grosh?
Yes.
Oh, OK.
What he's been doing his own thing as he was saying in the Rogan podcast or the interview
that he's been busy for the best year.
So actually involved with Congress.
So it's been a little contact because he's got a lot of things going on.
Plus, he can't really talk.
It's really as he used to.
Yeah, I think early on, we really had a very active friendship
where after he interviewed me, he was like the first one interviewing me.
Really?
Oh, that's so cool.
So you guys know each other a while?
Yeah, from the very start because I don't know if you're aware,
but what happened was I was actually working at the NSA campus
at the time.
We're on NSA, on the NSA network when I started working on all these files
that we're seeing dropped now.
Excuse me.
It's all the bug.
Give me a second.
OK.
But anyways, yeah, that's where people got the intel community.
I responded to some of the TR3 things and a couple of other ones.
And then they announced UFO.
UFO came up and that's when I had to say something to the intel community.
So it was all on this very highly classified network
that everybody got to know me.
And once I posted on the UAP Task Force website
about some of my experiences, that's when David introduced himself
and interviewed me for what he called a high level interview.
How many years ago is that?
I believe that was in 2022.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, that's when I started posting on this classified network
that we're starting to see the files drop here and there,
but it's still not the entire.