Circle Jerk Sunday by Jessica Machado

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这是一段关于YouTube创作者之间冲突的讨论,涉及Aiden和Lauren等人物,核心是围绕内容创作自由、网络争执及 hypocrisy(虚伪)的争论。 ### 总体概述 Aiden与Lauren等创作者因内容转向和网络争执互批虚伪,讨论涉及控制欲、双重标准及公众反应。 ### 要点 - Aiden批评Lauren以他的内容为平台,认为这是短视行为,缺乏长期可持续性。 - Aiden主张言论自由,认为Lauren有权选择内容,但指出其成功依赖于他的活跃度。 - Aiden反驳批评者,认为他们对其内容转向的指责是虚伪的,因Lauren也改变了方向。 - Lauren反驳称Aiden试图控制她,并指出其行为是反应性的,而非主动攻击。 - 冲突激化的关键点是Jeff(Aiden的丈夫)的评论,而非直播事件。 - Aiden认为Jeff的言论如"为何Aiden是道德标杆"是冲突升级的导火索。 - Lauren强调历史无法重写,Aiden的行为和言论是主要矛盾根源。 ### 结论或建议 网络冲突中应关注整体脉络,避免选择性忽视事实,同时尊重个人内容选择自由,但需意识到其后果。

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know whatever. Now I actually completely disagree, but like Lauren Katie, Lauren Katie, commonsense investigator, if she so chooses to make her whole platform about me, that is her choice. I do not ever think that she can't or shouldn't do that. It's a bad business decision. It's bad for longevity because if I walked away tomorrow, you know, aside from being able to go over all my old shows, Lauren has no content that is going to yield her views, right? And in the back of her mind, Lauren must be thinking that she must be feeling that level of insecurity where when she herself was just talking about whether it was a court case or whatever it was, makeup, whatever, that it couldn't, couldn't draw a crowd, right? It certainly couldn't draw the money. And she must be recognizing that her, her gift is as only good as my level of enthusiasm for doing content. If I stop, if I get rid of all my videos and I walk away, Lauren has to quickly pivot. And I think she understands as well as you and everybody else that Lauren will not be able to carry a show. We don't have to speculate on that. Lauren has demonstrated that. So, but it's her choice. Like, you know, I believe in free speech. I believe that Lauren should maybe look at what is her name? What is her real name? Is it Lauren? Lauren should be able to do whatever she wants. And I don't think people should say she shouldn't. I agree you can criticize why she's doing it and whatever. But like, I don't sit out here and bitch and complain that like she can't do it. Like as opposed to, so I guess sparkly rabbit rabbit is like, well, that's her show. And that's what she chooses to do. Well, then why aren't any of you recognizing that I have my own platform? And what I choose to do with it is what I choose to do with it. You know, like, someone said like, well, she used to do crime scene investigating. So why isn't it that? And they're like, well, she moved on to this. She should be able to do that. Okay. Well, if my whole thing was journalism and I choose not to do journalism anymore and I choose to do drama, then leave me alone and let me do it. Why are you guys so incapable of recognizing that it's hypocritical to make those statements? Cosy G jumped in right away and it was just like, there's zero self awareness and he doesn't understand that like he's he's being a hypocrite when he says these things. And you know, I guess this girl was asking about the pile on and sparkly rabbit bless her heart. She was like, you know, yeah, they piled on me. And I'm like, okay, I don't think she was asking that. And someone else kind of clarified. And they were trying to talk about like the pile on with me and they're saying it wasn't really a pile on. And then Valerie gets it. And she's like, well, you know, when you when you're trying to take down a larger channel with 150,000 subscribers, like at no point has there ever been like a concerted effort to take down Aiden Carnish channel. Everything that I am doing and saying to Aiden or towards Aiden is a reaction to what he's doing to me. There's no way to rewrite the history of that. And it is flabbergasting that people continue to try to like change the history. And it's insane to me. It's insane from the first from the bro stream to the days after the bro stream where he was trying to force me to do a exit interview to the exit interview itself. I mean, those are the main points that can never be changed. You cannot overlook it. You can't rewrite it. So, you know, I I'm not necessarily saying I've just, you know, dealt with it and not responded. I am kicking back and fighting back whenever I see fit whenever I feel like it. There's a plenty of things that, you know, Aiden is saying that I've disagreed with and I don't respond to them. You know, I definitely think things changed when Aiden saw my husband making a couple of comments. Aiden isn't capable of separating my husband from me. If anybody knows Jeff and listens to a show, Jeff really doesn't give a fuck about any of these people. So when he made that first statement in a comment section on my show where he was like, you know, why is Aiden the moral compass? That was pretty much like shots fired as far as Aiden was concerned. Everything really pivoted after that. You guys all think it was the bro stream, but it really wasn't. It was the comments that Jeff made. And then the comments when we were on that live stream on a Saturday, that also really kind of changed things from Jeff. And then, you know, everything out here, it's all fair and, you know, the war that is the internet. And so, but for some reason, I don't understand. It's not that I don't understand. It's wild to watch people make comments and not look at the whole picture. You know what I mean? I can look at the whole picture. I think that Aiden really wanted to control me right at the beginning of the Baker debacle. And don't think for one second, I haven't thought a thousand times that if I just listened to him where we would be right now, you know, like we would not be where we are today, at all, if I had just did what he said. And I just think that wouldn't have been authentic to how I approach everybody out here. It would have been fake. I would have been pushing down how I really felt about the Baker J7 situation, which from the beginning, I've always felt like right from the beginning when J7 and I talked and she shared with me like, you know, the real situation, that was it. I was like, you know, this guy's a fraud. The way that he's acting out here, the way that he is kind of making it out to be her being like the crazy one. Like, once I saw that, I mean, first of all, you have all seen it too. You all know what I'm talking about. You all know that in the beginning, the way that it was framed by Baker and his associates was that J7 was an absolute fucking unhinged fucking loser, right? And now, the more you see of her, the more you watch her, the more you listen to her, you recognize that first of all, she certainly has her style and her flaws, but she's not what he, he made everybody think she was, which is the number one reason why he didn't want anybody to talk about her. He didn't want her on the platforms. God forbid. I mean, he's crashed out essentially since she started her channel. That was, that was the end. Once and then, I mean, the crash out just continues as she gains popularity, as people warm up to her, as people see, like, you know, I think he probably lost his mind. The day that Aiden was like laughing when J7 was giving all the memberships because if there is any flicker of like a notion from Aiden where he thinks that J7 is like not so bad, he's going to die. He's going to die. And you saw that when Aiden was like talking to James Jackson about him in JFK. And we had that, that, you know, very memorable crash out where he literally was so upset about it. You know, we went on a stream in which it's like, I'm going to wash my hands of you, dude, if this is, if you're going to, if you're going to even talk to these people, I'm going to crash out and, and be done with you. Like, there is never a thinner skin in the game than that of Baker. And, and so yeah, and I think also too that like, I don't know, everybody wants to pick sides and that's fine. And I think Aiden picked the wrong one from the get as far as I'm concerned, but from a business standpoint, it's not the wrong one. It wasn't the wrong one because Baker has a network of people. He has a network of content creators. He goes deep. He goes deep to Megan Fox. He goes deep to Nick Rikeda. He goes deep with all these people. And so, you know, Aiden's not an idiot. He recognized, you know, he unfortunately had this leech of a man from another country, attacked himself to him. And he can't really disconnect from him because of this. You know what I mean? Like, he can't, he can't disconnect from because he's getting ready for trial. He's got to be hyper focused on that. He needs as much support as he can get. He's lost to tremendous support already. And he can't. So he picks the bright business decision. I have to think that Aiden, like when he's on his own, when he's looking at the shit that Baker does, like he's like he's cringing, like he is absolutely mortified because as much as like, I have whatever issues I have with Aiden now, like, they're like Aiden would never publicly display things bothering him like this. At least he like tries to keep it hidden down. Baker just does full public crash outs. Case in point would happen last night. I guess it's probably a good time to share with everybody, like of course, boohoo, they deleted the Bay Harbor beauty stream from last night. But don't you worry, we have it. I thought we would just leave it out there and joke for the whole day that we don't, we didn't have it and shoot, they shut it down, but whatever. Why lie? We don't have to lie. What do you think we're fucking amateurs? You think we're amateurs over here? The Justice of Shadow Network coming. Spicy Misty, I know you stream recorded it. I know you couldn't use up all your storage on your phone to keep that. But no, we have it. But like last night is the perfect example. I wanted to do a show tonight, but some of our panel was not available, so we bumped it tomorrow. Maybe I am unlocking something that I never saw before. I kind of always think it was strange when you have all of these panels and everybody jumps on and Radhouse pulls up a video and then they all talk about it. And then you see the expert does it, Friday night and they all kind of talk about it, whatever, like all these panels and stuff. I tried it with the exit interview and we had the panel of the besties on and it was good. I actually really liked it, but I was like, we're one in done. You know what I mean? I don't see any value in playing content and talking about it. It's usually like code for me. I don't do it. I'll maybe get a clip or something like that, but it's just not my style until Bayhubber Beauty stream last night. I have never watched something that I wanted to share amongst my friends in real time more than that. I watched that in real time and I was giddy at what an absolute perfect specimen of hypocrisy and crazy that it was. It is so perfect. There are so many moments. I can't decide. Like I can't decide if Valhalla losing his mind over the cost of the blankets that Julie from Bayhubber Beauty like spends her money on and her flexing that she buys all these blankets. Like him losing his mind over it, gold. But then like poor Lauren is like, no, no, I, I also have like an amazing blanket and she goes and gets it and Julie's like, that looks cheap. Like, I don't know and Lauren's like the fenders. Like, I don't know if that's my favorite part or if like Julie is like, what's everybody's plans? When are they flying in? Like, what are you coming for eight ends event? And Valhalla's like, no, dude, we're not telling the internet that and Lauren's like, no, no, we're not saying anything. And Julie is already sauceed at this point because she's been drinking Scotch or whiskey the whole night. And she's like, well, why? Like, I'm not anybody special. And Valhalla's like rolling his eyes underneath her on his screen. And he's like, no, we're not talking about like that also is a great moment. Then there's another great moment where I'm so I'm fasty this bitch. First of all, just so you all know, just so you're all aware, every single like character display of hers that was on last night, like every single facet of her personality that was on display last night is not a surprise to me. It has been shown in text messages for the past eight months. I have already seen these things. The wanting to take the lead, the throwing money around, the snobbery, the sexual weird conversation. Like, there's a lot that I had already seen. So to watch it on like full display last night, absolutely crazy. At one point, like, she's, she's basically like going to take over Dollywood. Like, the she's like, I'm a planner. I can plan this better. Like, I can do it. And like, nobody's biting because like, you don't even go. It's not even your event. Like, it's their event. What are you doing? Why are you acting like you can do better than them? The whole thing is just it is my hands down my favorite thing I've seen on the internet in a long time. And I thought the only solution was a panel to discuss it. Like, so I guess maybe that feeling I had is what they feel every time they watch my stuff. So that's why they do the panels and things like that. But like, I watched it. And I was like, I just cannot wait to shit talk this with my friends on the internet for everybody else. It's perfect. It is perfect. Perfect. Perfect. And then for the next layer of perfection, of course, Baker crashes out over it. And but he's also a hypocrite. Like, he, he basically is now we, we're going to have to work through this in real time, which is why I need to talk it over with everybody. But like, he said, everything was fine, but you could tell he wasn't into it, right? He could tell these personalities are all coming out. And he's like joking around and he's kind of managing and getting through it, I guess. And it's not it wasn't entertaining at first. It was just like fascinating. And then Arkansas, Bestie trying to copy me, right? 100% Katie, I see exactly what you're doing. Again, I've said this a thousand times. You are talentless. And so you can't do it. She comes to the table with a game, right? She's got a game. And what does she pick? Knowing her panel, she knows exactly who her panel is. She picks a game that redominantly focuses on like sex, right? Every question has some sort of like a sexual undertone or overtone to it, right? Baker, Baker calls it right away. He says, I can't answer these questions. Just

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