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or fatigue. I put out a post asking this very question. There's very interesting reading
the responses. A lot of people put it down to the host and co-hosts. Others say that they're
no longer learning anything. Some have said there are too many fake people with fake
archaic agendas. That was added. He was funny, maybe, laugh. Others speak about it being
too clicky. Others say it's always the same people speaking and new people don't get
a chance to speak. I know when I was speaking with Lili, she said that she can bring in some
of the technical aspects. But for me it's not just about the spaces. Like literally just
10 minutes before this, I saw something about a group chat and it really kind of just
travelled me. Even I'm supposed to host this space, I'm messaging a couple of people and
just trying to find out what's happening. I also think that these group chats are a huge
cause for the silos, the echo chambers, perpetuating the drama and the communication. And
a lot of it seems to spill out into spaces. I literally realised that just before this
space because I'm trying to get ready for this space and I'm going from my messages
and something happens. I'm like, what? And I'm trying to message people to try and find
out. I should have just taken straight as advice. Just come out of every group chat.
But I think they're quite good as a host to be able to let people know that the spaces are
there. And I think that's the only reason really why I'm staying in there. I'm not engaging.
But people are also very passive aggressive in there. And it's interesting to me because
there are people that don't even speak on spaces. But they can open or start a group chat
and all of a sudden they have this power and this control. They can remove you. They can
do whatever. It doesn't matter how well you do on spaces. And I find that. So there's
people that are very passive aggressive. So it's these kind of distortions that spill
out into spaces. And I just really wanted to put all of those different things from the
responses in here. What other people's views and responses are. And then we'll obviously
look for some solutions as well. So I appreciate all of you guys showing up. Please do like
and repost the space. Let's hear from the co-hosts. And then I want to definitely go to JP
because he's that kind of person. If I don't go to him in within like five minutes, he's
just going to get bored and leave. So I want to make sure that I do get to hear from JP.
And I know if I don't go to Angela because she didn't get a chance to speak on the last
space, she is going to come to the UK. And I won't be here anymore. So those two are going
to have to get priority first. And then I see Shatchan and obviously AJ is here. You're
not are these car hosts as well. He's just going to jump in when he feels like it. Right.
But let's hear from Lilo. Then Israel for about the intentions for this space. And then
yeah, we'll keep it going. Thanks for being there guys.
And bonsoir. Hi everyone. French here. Thank you.
That's hi AJ. I Israel. Hi everyone. Well, I'm not going to be too long because I saw so many
people asking to get the mic, which I think is really cool, actually. And I read a pink
post inked fixie wrote and it's about the whole center co-host. That's really interesting
to me because I have very strict rules in my space. I am very strict with their hands.
I have strict with the time being on topic, being non racist, non-offic, non anti-similism
in English. So I have so many street rules and respect people, actually respect the host
the co-host. I do not open my purple peel. I led the people I followed put on the purple
peel because I've seen so many dramas in my country, right? So many people, pretty people
going after other ones trying to kill them, trying to rip them, trying to stole, trying
to find their families, whatever. So when that's told me, we need to do a space because
there's this and that and what about the spaces and I was like, okay, and I saw the maze,
what happened to maze and I saw so many people being so mean and so many illegal stuff
going here and there because as a whole thing co-host, we do have on terms of condition
of this platform, a responsibility, but the thing is that it doesn't go anywhere unless
you're a lawyer. And also my question is, do we want that? Do we want those strict rules?
Are we not allowed to allow like sometimes in that space to have our ends for an hour
and see a wait because he sees a friend or somebody who knows won't be there for too long,
go on the mic. And I feel like people are really waiting for that time in so many spaces
to not shine but put their opinion out there, which I do absolutely respect. But sometimes
I think it's a little too much or maybe they are taking things, you know, like their life
depends on it, which I think is crazy because you're not making any change by talking on
a space because the way space are built, it's interesting. You kind of feel like you're
becoming somebody, but actually we all, I have not seen crazy influencers with crazy
numbers and crazy money as content creators on spaces. I didn't see hosts with their
community on spaces, brought things to governments to change the world or to raise money for
a cause or to end words or whatever. What I've seen and a lot of it does, I've seen people
going after other people talking in back, talking shit, trying to put down so many other human
beings like in high school, I guess. And I do not go in DMs and groups. I absolutely don't
care. Actually, maybe that's the French in me. So I feel like I want to listen to all of you guys
just to understand maybe what you are waiting for as when you are going in the space. Like do
you really strictly want to be on the topic? Do you want to have the mic when you raise your
hand? Do you want to have strict rules? Do you want to have open mic? Because I can tell
you that people in my country are telling me that I am kind of a teacher because they don't
want to come in my space because it's boring because I am too strict on rules, but that's
the only way I found just for people to respect one another. So that was my first take. Thank
you so much and I cannot wait to listen to you guys.
No, thank you.
Do you know what I just got to Israel about his discipline? Where is Israel gone? There he is.
He's back there now. I was invited as car host. So hi to Steph and Lynn. I see Sarah Beth and
Peter Rose is here. I'm mental reboot. Is there? I'll try some some cool people. Israel will
wait. All right. Let's all right. That is up. Let's see if he's ready and then we're going to
wait. Israel, do you want to show your thoughts on this? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Dad, for having me as
a co-haley Lou and everyone else, AJ is up here and all some good friends here. Last Friday we
had a good space like you said and it was thought provoking. And so I would like for this one to
be the same. And Dad, I feel like we're almost running parallel spaces in regards to X and X
community and whatnot. I recently had a converted into a doxing conversation. And that was pretty
deep on Sunday. And it was just like a prelude of what is yet to come with people who want to come
up here and talk about their experiences, which is it goes hand in hand with your question.
Why are so many people leaving X or X spaces? And that's because I believe there's a lot of
abuse on here. You name it. It's practically has happened. People get too friendly with someone and
they start giving their location up. A little about a little people are here taking notes to triangulate
the person. Then they'll go surprise a person at home. It's like a lot of crazy little things like
that. Doxine, a picture of families or disclosing people's names or phone numbers. And that's I think
a big driver here because it's happening in a lot of communities. You mentioned some of your
responses was fake people. Lili said the same thing. And so there's that too. It's so many layers
that we can cover. I'll keep you short so let the speakers talk and as we move along, I'll jump in.
But fake people on here, they were many hats. And so sometimes it takes two, three years for
you for them to be exposed or be for discovery to happen. Some people here are tired of
hearing the same thing. They leave one community to the next. Some people come in here and
they want to learn but it's become eco-chainbers. Not our fault. I believe it's just
how sometimes is the flow of things. And so there's that. Sometimes I've said before or does.
Some speakers are not good speakers. They should be listeners. Some hosts are not the best host or
co-host. And they should be probably people should kind of know their limits. And perhaps that's
another thing that we could discuss where someone wants to be here and be a host. But why? You want to
have control? Or are you actually going to bring value to the community? And so there's that. There's vanity.
The ego and the pride and spaces. So there's a lot of that. Many layers in this conversation.
And hopefully we can remove some or talk about some. I'll leave it there. I want to remind everyone
to share the space. You know, like it. And if you know someone who wants to talk about something,
but they're too shy to come up here, haven't sent you the M or put it in the comments. You can keep
the conversation going and the comments as you go along. Maybe some of you don't want to come up or
speak. Maybe you could answer the question in the comments. Thank you.
Thanks, Israel. Yeah. I think there's so many layers to this. You're right. I can see it being,
you know, a space where a lot of people want to speak. If you find that you've got your hand up for
a long time and, you know, sometimes people do kind of come up and they let me know that I've
got time and it might, you know, jump ahead of you. Please don't be annoyed if you don't have the time.
Message me and let me know during the space and give me the opportunity to try and get to you
rather than just leave angrily and then send me the message when the space is done because I can't
really help when the space is done. Right. So that's just my my advice moving forward.
I don't have those DMs after the space. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. I'm not only is Angela. I did it.
But I did. Angela forget it. She's DM in right away.
That's why I said after Adam. As I said after Adam, Angela is going and she doesn't have to put up
her hand. Now I remembered. And Angela, Angela will be, you know, able to have her say. But go ahead,
AJ and I feel there as well. I want to hear from you before you get impatient as well. And JP
too. So we're going to get through those three. And I live in the desert and have shitty service.
And so it goes out and then I drop. But I never write you anything like that. Oh my god. You know,
I don't do that. It's not a feeling doesn't. Oh, look, look, Israel is real set. It's real. It's
vanity metrics. I think people are here for attention. They hear for validation. This app turns into
like a truth app. But what are people really fighting for truth? If you're fighting for truth,
are you on fucking x spaces? Or you're at the board meetings? Or you're at the, or are you becoming a
teacher? Are you creating a business? Are you circulating money? Are you helping people?
Are you on these fucking x spaces to change the world? No, it's just validation. And look, there's a lot
of people who cannot get jobs for one reason or another. Maybe they have a record, maybe they have a
background. They can't get a job. So this is their job. And it's easy to just turn your phone on
and start talking into the phone about something you're passionate about. And you feel like you're
changing the world. But this app is not made to change the world. It's made so you can't change the
world because people get triggered. They, we want to get in court up in the reptilian brain in this
app. And when you're in the reptilian brain, you're looking for survival and you start lashing out
at the only people you can. And that's the people that are around you. That's the people that are on
the spaces. So that's, that's where we are. I think this, this app is a complete and utter trap.
I've been saying this for over a year now, a year and a half on spaces, that you got to find the
people you could create would get off this app as fast as possible and start creating with people
in person. Now, unfortunately, there's a lot of people on this app who maybe don't have the ability
to create. And then you'll see them trapped on spaces. You'll see them trapped on this app.
This app is a trap because if you're a creator, you're not on this app. You're outside living,
creating, building. So you have to take that into consideration. This app is nobody. Nobody is
getting any closer to any kind of truth on this app. And by the time you get close to the truth,
your whole entire community implodes on you, whether you're the Bitcoin community, the UFO community,
the JQ community, your whole entire community implodes on you because again, at the end, it comes down to
validation and attention. And I'll end there. Over to you.
Validation and attention. Whose space was it? It was miss space here. He done a fantastic space,
yesterday. And it was really about how to kind of protect communities and build resilience from
those kind of people who infiltrate and destroy communities. It could just take one person.
Isn't it? I think we've all seen it. And you know, like it's really just that word triangulation.
I'm going to say two-faced right.