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But I don't know what other science you expect them to bring forward.
I mean, you're seeing it all in the shows.
You can either buy the shows, buy into them or not buy into them.
But there are a lot of people out there that are doing more grifty stuff than he's
doing, in my opinion, and have been for a while.
So I don't know.
I just think you need to give it time.
And yeah, is it kind of like, uh, get, gives you some nettles because it's
taken so long and they're playing it like it's a great big, you know,
television production, which it is.
Yeah, I get that.
But that's just the nature of the beast.
I just don't know if griping about that kind of stuff gets, gets she any,
any progress ultimately.
But, you know, that's just me.
That's fair points.
And, um, you know, I don't, I, I've watched a couple episodes of the show.
I'm not really that much into it.
But I think when it gets, when it comes down to the science stuff where he's
saying he's being transparent, where he's, it's really not the,
the process of doing the show and the, the, I'm just talking about the,
even with Skywatcher, Skywatcher was going to publish their data.
And I'm talking about like censored data where 99% of the people wouldn't
even know what they're looking at.
But the people who would be able to dissect it, in my opinion, and to actually
see replicated, copy it and then go out in the field and study it themselves.
That's the main thing for this whole, like that's where the science,
I feel like we're trying to make it seem like we're building the scientific
field of UFOs and UAP, but it's really not.
Like they're not, that's not doing it.
Doing the TV show and being like, oh, well, like you could subscribe to our
channel and our discord and find some of the stuff and get access to the
behind the scenes.
And that's not what McWest is asking for.
And people who are skeptical or anybody who's just science,
scientists who would be trying to find out what's happening.
It's getting Walker Ranch.
And you know, it's his property.
It's his shit.
It's his show.
So it's like, like do whatever you want.
Like, but don't come out here saying you're doing science.
You know, like that's where I'm going to come in.
I'm like, actually, bro, you're not really doing science if you're not releasing
this stuff because nothing's been published about it.
There hasn't been anything that a scientist outside of UAP could look at and be
like, yeah, there's something there.
Like there's fucking, we got to do some more stuff there.
A anomaly.
What's up?
I'm the same as you point.
And the only the last thing I'll say and then I got to get back to get some
work done is I do think something happened.
That whole story about the, you know, the livestock that was moved and put
all into, you know, a small container and all that stuff.
I think that stuff happened.
I mean, that just that, I don't think there's something going on there.
And I think it's been missing represented.
The Indian tribes are saying that they consider that to be a place
with a lot of anomalous things going on.
Even if there's some question about if there were a lot of reports before, I guess,
who was it the family that had it before big load.
But anyway, you know, I just, this is another data point we could get in here
and we could have these discussions about this forever.
All I really know is this phenomenon, we don't understand it, but it is real.
It's important that government is lying.
And that's the thing that I really think we need to focus on because I don't
know that we're getting hard answers on any of this, you know,
specificity of what it actually bodies because it's so varied, so opaque, so weird.
I'm not sure the government knows, but, you know, we can sit here and go through
this process time and time again.
And we probably will for the next three years, four years, whatever.
And I don't know that I'm interested in rehashing the same stuff over and over
again. In fact, I'm not.
And we need to figure out a way that something new comes from this.
And I would focus not on the phenomenon proper so much as the government
fucking us lying to us stealing from us.
And if we can fix that, then we might get some real answers.
That's just my take.
Let him cook.
And my real goal here is to get an invite to skin walker ranch anyway.
So still still up for that.
You can go just telling me want to come out and take a look.
No, it's what I want.
You know, like this is what it's this all lead into, you know, well, send him a message.
Don't be a dick.
Look, I like to come out there and look for real.
Nice.
All right.
Now it was up to you know, so I wanted to go back to the Galway Galway project
thing because how much has he actually released about his galway?
Has he released like videos and stuff?
And he says like, okay, we found out these are birds or these are meteors.
Or we've earned papers on this, which is why this is not this.
Has he done stuff like that or has he just said we haven't found anything?
I'm really curious because I don't really look too much into it, but not sure what he's released.
Yeah, that's a good question.
I don't know if he's released anything like a breakdown in a, you know, it's funny.
Is that bet arrow has really swarming?
Everybody gives arrow bad rap, but they're the only ones that are actually released in some of this shit.
And the breakdown of these cases.
So yeah, it's just, I think it's just unfortunate that five years into the project.
And even today they released the sole foundation, the, this, a little panel that they had
with Gary Nolan and Avi Loeb.
And a lot of the message was we need to collect new data.
Like we need the new data to collect all this stuff.
And we're going to go out with the government with sensors and all of this stuff.
Well, Avi Loeb has the best sensors in the world in the last five years.
And he hasn't found shit.
So that's, I don't know, that's not good to me.
And, you know, the going the direction of will unearth this data from old cases and trying,
you know, give it the good, skip, give it the good scientist, you know, run down.
It's going to be so like, what are they going to be able to find?
Like Roswell, Biologics, you know what I'm saying?
Like the declassification, I think is going to be the key to what they're going to be accessed.
And they're not going to have it.
They don't have any more access than we do than the public does.
Yeah, it's only just wondering because one of my analysts friends has talked with Avi about the math and stuff.
And he doesn't agree with Avi quite a bit.
And I just like wondering like why he's actually released.
So other people in scientists can figure out what Avi's done to figure out that there's nothing there.
And if he hasn't released anything, how are we supposed to like know about that stuff?
He's published stuff.
So I mean, it's not like he's not published anything.
I think of anybody who's on the panel of things that have to do like in things that are adjacent to UAP.
He's probably published the most stuff out of anybody.
So I think that's why in reality he's leading the panel because that's, you know, Gary Nolan talked about today with the Skywatcher.
Like he didn't even feel good enough to publish anything that Skywatcher was doing.
And again, like when you get down to the science stuff, it's all about like publishing this and getting scientific credibility through,
you know, posting all of your data and in breakdown and analysis so that other scientists look at that.
And so that I think was why Avi is the leading it.
So he has the most experience in that.
How do you feel about the UAP learning operation that was done by the government?
Yeah, I don't know. Like Burleson talked about it.
I wonder who was involved in organizing it.
That's I think a good, a good starting point is who a lot of people were there.
And a lot of people heard about it, but who was the one who organized the whole thing?
I think we have photos of some of the orbs too in the, they were released in the pursuit documents, I think.
Is that the one where they came up and went to the helicopter?
Yeah, that would be cool to want the ones that were specifically, I think if somebody could break all of that down.
And to identifying those cases and then might get a clearer picture because this was actually like earlier in the year.
Like this was like February, because Burleson, we played a clip last night and Burleson, it was like March or April and he was like a couple months ago.
So this is just now it's like being recycled again, but this happened months ago.
I'm pretty sure Merrick already did some sort of analysis on the photos.
I know Midwest thinks they're flares, but that you can see the photos of the orbs they're moving upwards instead of downwards, which is very interesting.
We got a revolt, revolution and all things jumped up. What's up guys?
Hey, not much. What a joke. He thinks those, they're flares. It's not surprising.
What a joke. Like imagine the conspiracy and the total just like foolishness and keystone cop crap.
That would have to be going on for it to be flares. Like, well, whose flares are they?
Are they just like random citizens shooting flares that they can't figure out who they are? What a joke.
I feel like they would know that too if they were like their own flares or someone else's nearby.
Well, yeah, they would know it and come on. Give me a break.
Like the government's going to create a special task force of scientists to try to figure out what flares
are that they themselves launched in some sort of secret mission, but don't know about like that's just doesn't make any sense.
I'm just wondering who gave the pitch? Like who is like, okay, we've got this drone activity. We don't know.
We have this idea, Mr. President of the summoning sky watcher thing that's dog whistle.
Can we explain to you the dog whistle, Mr. President?
We're going to summon the UFOs, the aliens down from above. We're going to bring them down.
But I wonder what is that? Then we're going to get the crashed materials.
Where was it with the nukes? I think they've talked about learning them in with nukes as well.
We're going to find nuclear material in helicopters and lure them in. It's like a bait bait.
You know, we're baiting the...
Well, there is stuff on the books with nuclear materials.
Oh, yeah, there's an article. There's articles about that. Yeah.
Like Kevin Canuth, UAPX, they were one of his, one of the people in there.
They were working, they patented a handheld nuclear device that was essentially for that purpose.
But now he also said that every three letter agency asked them what's their capabilities for detecting the underwater.
So how does the handheld nuclear device apply to that scenario?
Would you want to be on the submarine with the nuclear UAP luring stuff?
Although I suppose if the submarine is nuclear armed already anyway, you're doing it just by existing.
Yeah, I wonder if Arrow is there too. That would be interesting.
If Arrow was where?
At the luring operation.
Yeah, I think so. I think Arrow was invited out to a couple of things that were known.
Yeah, I remember about that.
I think they were invited out to Skywatcher, right?
Interesting to see the government is now sending their agents to teach us about UAPs.
I doubt Arrow was invited out to any sort of Skywatcher, because I still say,
I mean, the whole Skywatcher disappeared when it's priced to me because I always just thought it was them pitching a TV show.
Like I never looked at it as anything different than that.
So maybe they might have some government affiliated person that was going to be on one of the episodes,
but I can't imagine Arrow would just like officially go out and take something like that.
Who was it today? Gary Nolan finally went on the record on Skywatcher.
I just shared the clip a like an hour ago, but he said that Skywatcher kind of explained the operation
and he explained it as half military, half scientific, which I thought was pretty interesting
that he referred to it as half military operation, which I didn't seem like it was.
I thought that they were just doing data collection.
I don't know where the military aspect came in.
I mean, maybe the helicopters and the machine guns.
Yeah, the people over was like, why do you guys need machine guns?
Well, in plus they were trolling us like literally.
I mean, they were doing the same formula, Skimal Kharag, does.
Don't get me wrong.
I like Skimal Kharag, just the same formula that Oak Island does.
It's a good formula.
It is proven to be affected for capturing viewers on television.
They were doing it.
But I felt like, I mean, they were literally trolling us by filming birds,
like big birds in the sky and literally inventing classifications of UAP
and describing a bird and saying these are the descriptions of a brand new class of UAP.
Like how could you ever follow along with any organization seriously after that?
And the guy that laughed too, he even said that he advised them they need a flipping
ornithologist, don't stay off or whatever a bird expert is.
But they literally filmed, like to me, it would have been much more interesting all along.
I've harped on this for so long.
Like I won't go off the deep end.
But they would have been much more interesting if you, one of your pilot episodes here,
show me the California condor that you film.
Like that's really interesting.
That's fine.
You were looking for UAP.
You filmed a California condor.
Just tell us.
Don't say it's a man array UAP and tell us that you only filmed it during the daytime.
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