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AI与日常环保争议:主持人Nick与听众讨论AI的潜力与风险,以及纸袋替代塑料袋后易破、装不了罐头等实际问题。 - 节目开场尝试邀请听众上麦辩论,一位来自中国的听众JY表示喜欢Billy,但因语言障碍难以深入交流。 - 主持人自述是"文艺复兴型"通才,对任何话题都愿一试,但要求听众自己提出议题,他保留拒绝权。 - 讨论AI时,主持人提出核心观点:AI潜力巨大但也很危险,但承认这一说法过于笼统,难以被有效反驳。 - 听众Sergeant Esco抱怨当地超市不再提供塑料袋、只给纸袋,纸袋一湿就破,罐头会掉出来。 - 他举例说狗公园提供的可降解塑料袋能装约四磅狗屎,因此完全能装罐头,质疑为何不推广这类袋子。 - 主持人对纸袋与塑料袋哪个更环保也表示怀疑,认为两者似乎都对环境不友好。 - 部分州还对塑料袋额外收费,进一步加剧了听众的不满。 若想推动环保包装政策,应先比较纸袋、普通塑料袋与可降解塑料袋的实际承重和环境影响,再决定推广哪种方案。

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Pandora's box gets opened. Cool. This is an awesome topic. I appreciate it. And see we got JY up here. So JY is connecting JY. How's it going? No, JY is not actually here. What? All right. Says we have another request. Oh, it's just JY again. Hello, Nick. I'm from China. Billy, I like you. Oh, thank you. You're from China or Canada? Uh, yeah. Oh, both. But uh, yeah, do you have something you want to argue about? Or do you want to argue about liking me? We could argue that. Sorry. I know to speak English. Oh, uh, I don't know much Chinese. I only know. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, uh, well, me how and, uh, size, you and and JIO. That's all I know. Yeah. JIO, my, my friends to teach me how to hit on girls in the various languages. So, um, in Vietnamese, I know M that, which means like you are pretty or something like that. And yeah, but I don't know anything actually useful. So we'll be hard to communicate. You probably can't understand what I'm saying anyway. So anyway, um, well, we don't have anyone else who wants to come up. Uh, so I can't really argue with myself. So could any brave person want to come up and have a chat about anything? Otherwise, I'm going to beatbox. Three, two, one, go. Yeah, you guys are probably like at work or something. Oh, we got a request. Thank you, Kim. Kim, I appreciate you. Thanks for coming up into our you about topics that I have some form of a skill in, but you have to propose me topics and give me rejection rights. Uh, okay. Well, since I don't have much choice with with what are going on, um, what, what is your like general background? So I can get an idea of what topics to propose. Well, general human capital, but propose any topic because I'm a bit of a Renaissance person who doesn't have deep detail on anything and kind of hates what's happening in the world. So so pick a fringe really cool subject to give me choices from. Okay. Like a fringe fringe like controversial subjects. As long as it's in English, I'll give it my best shot. All right. Well, we'll go to AI to, oh, actually, no, this is, this is do AI. Uh, AI is a fringe topic that I think a lot of people have. We're not fringe. AI is a very mainstream topic, but I think a lot of people have complicated opinions on. So what's your base opinion of AI at its current state? I'm here to argue with you. Why are you asking me questions? Hmm. I'll just to get a baseline, but, um, okay. So if we want to make an assertion, um, I think AI has great potential, but it's also very dangerous. You don't know how to make it easy for people to argue with you. Do you? Well, I'm really, I mean, arguing with me is, is the ironic title, but mostly I just want to have discussions. So is, yeah, that's probably a very, uh, simplistic and difficult to argue assertion, but yeah. Well, I, I did, I did come in for the, for the core argument because you're not generally an argumentative person. So I figured I could win that. And, um, I think definitively at this point, I have one. So I'll see the rest of it because, uh, general, general cool topics are going on out there in other spaces. So I thought that the argument function would make this interesting. Hmm. Okay. Well, if you don't find this interesting, that's fine. And we'll get someone else up. But thanks for coming up. Um, let's get Sergeant Esco up here. Sergeant Esco, how's it going? I don't want to argue with anyone, but, um, I do have to argue. That's his name. Okay, then I will bring it up. I will bring it up. Okay. All right. So paper versus plastic, the whole world's moved to paper and we think we're cool because we're being like all cool and stuff, but all the cans and everything fall right out of the bag if they get wet, right? Now I have two burn adoodles. And when I go to the dog park, they have these biodegradable plastic bags. And if they can hold like four pounds of dog poop, they can definitely hold my cans and they buy out of grade. So what's the problem? They're do use to get your cans in the house and pick up your dog poop. Go ahead, argue, please. Okay. Um, so can you succinctly reframe what you were saying? Cause I didn't fully follow. But basically you're mad at about plastic bags or you're mad about certain types of cans or what do you, what do you specifically? Yeah, you can't get plastic bags in the grocery store where I live anymore. They, they'll give you a paper bag. Right? You put two Campbell soup in there and something and you walked your car and yes, Frank, it will just fall right on the ground. Yeah. I don't know the reason behind either choosing paper or plastic. I feel like like intuitively it just feels like they're both like if the argument is, this is not good for the environment. I can't see how a paper bag is good for the environment. I can't see how plastic bag is good for the environment. Like I don't know the other thing either of them. Like I think the, uh, you know, in a lot of states that I live in, they charge you extra money if you even want any bag. So, um, I don't know what, what's your feeling on that? Cause I think it's probably like I always think is probably good for me to bring my own bag if I'm going to go to the store rather than like my own reusable bag. But then it feels like you're stealing. You know what I mean? It feels like they're looking at you like why do you have, why do you have a Walmart bag when you're in Target? Dude, what's up with you? What are you putting in there? You know, no, you got to, you got to pay for like, you just go on Amazon and you pay like 12 bucks and you get these like pretty big bags that are not branded and you can go wherever with them, except I always forget. And it's just like every single time I forget and I have to pay like 20 cents or something. Well, that's, uh, that's a good argument. But I guess if we're arguing you're wrong. So I got to go and thanks for bringing me up bro. Have a great day. But it's my night. Thanks. Fair. Cool. Let's see who else we got. We got a Chenoye. I didn't say your name right. I'm sure. Hey, Chenoye. Is that how you say your name? Please, please correct me. Yes, you were close. Is Chi Naniye? Oh, Chi Naniye. Yes, there you go. Oh, that's cool. That's actually a really cool name. Chi Naniye. I'm not forgetting my two seconds because I have a horrible memory. It's so nice to be in your space. I'm a big fan of yours. Oh, well, thanks. I never know like I just say random crap out to the void. And I don't know who listens and I'm honored when anyone cares about anything. I say so unless they're mean, then I don't, then I don't feel honored. Then I don't like them. Right. Yes. Well, I really liked the topic. Um, because I'm not really argumented. But I, you know, maybe we can have a healthy debate. Sure. Um, and I think what I wanted to talk about was this, this concept right now of the sacred masculine and, um, you're going to have to like go real deep on what sacred masculine. Real. Because I have no idea what it is. Okay. Well, I mean, we've kind of had the social media kind of talk with masculinity, right? Women are talking about men that are in our sense of mistake and controlling. So, um, on the flip side, there is, and I'm not the all knowing being. I just, my definition of secret masculine is the masculine counterpart that is attuned and tapped into his feminine side and balanced because right, we all have X, Lycrombusome, even the man has the X. Um, he's grounded and rooted in the mother and that mother archetype. And then he's able to move in the world from a balanced place rather than a wounded place. And there's, and there's really the culture is not set up right now to hold space for men to allow that kind of archetype to rise just from my experience of being married to a man. Now I'm a widow. David, man who feel like, oh, thank you. You know, so how can we as women hold space for men to drop into their hearts more and drop more into their feminine so they can be more balanced like I basically just, yeah, that's, that's the really good question. Let me give a little bit of thought to it or talk out loud about my thought processing. Um, so I'll start really basic or like gut level is I think men generally tend assuming they're attracted to women, generally tend to congregate toward whatever works to attract the women. So if women aren't attracted to the type of man that you're discussing, then they won't do it. Does that make sense? Yes, yes, it makes a lot of sense. So I think like, you know, like nice guys, right? Like this is an archetype of guys that, oh, I'm going to be nice. And I'm going to try to get close to women by being nice. And what nice guys generally find is that women are not attracted to nice guy archetype for many reasons. One is because generic nice guy is not actually nice. He's just doing a strategy. And another reason is that, um, usually they're too giving too quickly. And then they get kind of put into a different role than, then a man that is attractive to them. So I think that's, uh, if, like I, I don't still fully understand what you're saying completely or I probably will get it wrong. But it sounds like what you're saying is a more balanced man that's also in touch with his feminine side. Um, or at least, you know, it respects his mom type thing. Is that what you mean? Ish. Yeah. No, you and hearing your insight, like hearing you say, um, that men until women start desiring. Yes. That balanced man, men aren't really going to shift because they can, women are still desiring like the wounded, the broken man, the, and not to like put y'all down. We are going through our own. No, I mean, men, men, men, uh, there's, I feel like all humans are kind of broken in their different ways and their childhoods and whatever. And I think men, uh, men are extremely attracted to damsel and distress. Uh, because then they're like, oh, hey, I can be provider. I can be, I can fix you type stuff, right? Like you hear that all the time, especially if they're hot, like a hot damsel and distress is like going to attract basically every single man ever. And it's just like, oh, I can save you. I can whatever I can like, you know, be the provider. I can be valuable to you. And then that often leads to pretty toxic related. Right. I mean, naturally, like so I kind of rose, um, in reverse of that to really learn that sentence. So I became a mother very early. Like I have no adult life, but I didn't have a child. I didn't marry my first high school love. So I was a single mom like 18 through 24. Um, so I learned what it's like to struggle and create a life for yourself with no fault from the masculine. Yeah. And for anybody actually, because that's, yeah, a lot of people just jump from relationship to relationship and never build themselves up. Yeah, but you know, what I discovered in that time, and then I took a big break didn't date anyone so that I could that I met my husband and we married. But what I'm trying to get to is that naturally, the feminine needs that protective that provider, we need it in order to drop more into our feminine softness, which will then in turn help you guys. It's like a feedback loop, you know. I, so I learned that. And I went through my independent woman because I was so hurt by the dynamics of single motherhood. And so now I'm coming to the place of I have a lot of men have shared that they, they want to be better, you know, they want to face their hearts and their pains. And so how can we as women in society today hold space for you guys with our actions and our speech and our walk? Uh, well, I think firstly, everyone should hear the way that you're framing things and, and you know, give it a thumbs up. Like, I think too much for society today is like, how can other people cater to what I want and how I feel and isn't, it's not very like, how can I make things better for others. And so if everyone was like that, the world would be a much better place. And, and et cetera. In terms of making space. Gosh, that's.

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